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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 30, 2006 10:06:39 GMT -5
Hey Tim. Maybe we could make a sticky about mistakes we have all made while prepping. May help everyone out.
1) Cut water back too sooon! (I know Mo and Tim. You dont have to say it!!!!)
2) Did not carb up enough.... (Again, I KNOW!!)
3) Should maybe stop cheating a little further than 3 weeks out. Well, hmmmmmmmm.... Tuff one. I guess if I wanted to give 100% than I would not cheat so much.
4) Get more conditioned earlier.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jul 30, 2006 10:21:38 GMT -5
Making it a sticky Randy !  5) Wait until after the show to eat pizza!! LOL j/k I got your pics from Paul (scrat),but because I`m on dial-up, as there is no cable installed on my road,the pics are so big they don`t download for me.  If he can possibly re-size them or maybe send them to Mo,we can post `em up on the board!! Congrats again bro,I`m really proud of you,and very happy for you placing so well in your very first contest. #bowdown3ht# Any other upcoming shows in your plans ?? |
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 30, 2006 12:32:02 GMT -5
Making it a sticky Randy ! 5) Wait until after the show to eat pizza!! LOL j/k I got your pics from Paul (scrat),but because I`m on dial-up, as there is no cable installed on my road,the pics are so big they don`t download for me. If he can possibly re-size them or maybe send them to Mo,we can post `em up on the board!! Congrats again bro,I`m really proud of you,and very happy for you placing so well in your very first contest. #bowdown3ht# Any other upcoming shows in your plans ?? 5) I dont like # 5 Just PM'd you about the pics |
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Post by sicario on Jul 30, 2006 15:34:30 GMT -5
I'd add the whole salt loading salt depleation thing in there. I don't have anyone do salt loading or depleation any more, it's just too damm hard to "control" as it were. I find that adjusting the water consumtion levels does pretty much the same job, and isn't half as risky as loading and depleating salt. Just too damm easy to blow a whole years work in one day because you look BLOATED on stage. Vin.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 30, 2006 17:06:55 GMT -5
I'd add the whole salt loading salt depleation thing in there. I don't have anyone do salt loading or depleation any more, it's just too damm hard to "control" as it were. I find that adjusting the water consumtion levels does pretty much the same job, and isn't half as risky as loading and depleating salt. Just too damm easy to blow a whole years work in one day because you look BLOATED on stage. Vin. I personally had no problem with the sodium loading and depleting.. |
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Post by QuietBob on Jul 31, 2006 7:26:10 GMT -5
Not starting to shave soon eough and then getting firey, angry, red bumps in sensitive areas that itch and look terrible!
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Post by GerryT on Jul 31, 2006 8:07:05 GMT -5
Neglecting posing practice. With many beginners I've coached, they thought it was easy and could just wing it. Till they got on stage.
You have to set an amount of time aside each day of prep to practice turns, mandatories and the routine. Can't stress that enough!
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Post by sicario on Jul 31, 2006 8:20:15 GMT -5
Neglecting posing practice. With many beginners I've coached, they thought it was easy and could just wing it. Till they got on stage. You have to set an amount of time aside each day of prep to practice turns, mandatories and the routine. Can't stress that enough! I don't want to even IMAGINE how that turned out!!! When I competed, my "coach" (the word P.T. didn't exist 20 years ago, LOL) had me "drill" my posing until I could do it in my sleep!!!! In fact, my bigest concern was going "blank" on stage, LOL, Vin. |
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Post by GerryT on Jul 31, 2006 9:27:07 GMT -5
Hear you, Vin. At a show, I can usually tell who practiced and who didn't. And you should be at a point where you can pose by rote (not looking down, memorizing the sequence). Otherwise, you have not practiced enough.
Coached one guy with stage fright, and would freeze on stage. I finally decided to tell him to remove his contacts before going on stage. Even though he knew the audience was there, not being able to see them relaxed him. Whatever works! ;D
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Post by sicario on Jul 31, 2006 17:27:26 GMT -5
Hear you, Vin. At a show, I can usually tell who practiced and who didn't. And you should be at a point where you can pose by rote (not looking down, memorizing the sequence). Otherwise, you have not practiced enough. Coached one guy with stage fright, and would freeze on stage. I finally decided to tell him to remove his contacts before going on stage. Even though he knew the audience was there, not being able to see them relaxed him. Whatever works! ;D "By rote" is exactly what I would call it, you hit the nail right on the head with that one dude. Even though I brought a backup tape to the show (boy am I dating myself, LOL) in case the first one got "mashed" somehow, my coach even had me rehearse my routine with no music at all, just to be prepared. Your idea of having the guy take out his contacts is a real stroke of genious, I take my hat off to you on that one. You really have your bodybuilding psycology down dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vin. |
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Post by beckie on Jul 31, 2006 19:37:00 GMT -5
Yeah,my trainer had me doing 45 mins 2x a day from 6 weeks out,worked a treat!
Other mistakes I have come across:
Cutting out all fat
cutting out carbs too quickly
doing HOURS of cardio a day
abusing fat burners-too higher doses,too long a cycle
abusing diuretics-especially the banned ones
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Post by chanman83 on Aug 1, 2006 11:41:35 GMT -5
Neglecting posing practice. With many beginners I've coached, they thought it was easy and could just wing it. Till they got on stage. You have to set an amount of time aside each day of prep to practice turns, mandatories and the routine. Can't stress that enough! that was one thing that was soo pushed on me. When I see the pics I can also tell who has and who hasn't been practicing. Like many have said.. its a whole new workout but it pays off on stage! |
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Post by Intensity on Aug 1, 2006 12:17:33 GMT -5
Great thread Randy!
The worst mistakes i made (and as i said in another threads, those are also the more commun ones i've seen on many bobybuilders preps) is about water and carbs:
1) To cut water too early or to restrain completely water on contest day.
2) To be affraid of eating carbs 1-3 days before the show (after the show is, in many cases, not a problem ;D )
As far as sodium goes, i never had any problem with it! Maybe it's an individual thing, but i dont even feel bloated on high sodium days! So i try to keep a bit of sodium in my diet on contest day.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Aug 3, 2006 9:54:23 GMT -5
Great thread Randy! The worst mistakes i made (and as i said in another threads, those are also the more commun ones i've seen on many bobybuilders preps) is about water and carbs: 1) To cut water too early or to restrain completely water on contest day. 2) To be affraid of eating carbs 1-3 days before the show (after the show is, in many cases, not a problem ;D ) 3) Not realizing that I was a freak of nature and can get away with almost anything! (MO) As far as sodium goes, i never had any problem with it! Maybe it's an individual thing, but i dont even feel bloated on high sodium days! So i try to keep a bit of sodium in my diet on contest day. |
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Post by Intensity on Aug 3, 2006 13:26:07 GMT -5
;D I'll take this as a compliment Randy… but if you would see me doing my usual 6 months contest prep, you would realize that i'm not a freak of nature...or as you said i'm not realizing it  because i am doing everything the hardest way i could: zero exception, counting everything i eat, not going to any social events, pushing like crazy in the gym, thinking about it every 5 minutes, having no life, etc! |
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Post by Tim Wescott on Aug 3, 2006 14:12:05 GMT -5
because i am doing everything the hardest way i could: zero exception, counting everything i eat, not going to any social events, pushing like crazy in the gym, thinking about it every 5 minutes, having no life, etc! Sounds very familiar Mo !! ;D Doing just that as we speak,and looking pretty damn good right now because of it!! |
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Post by Intensity on Aug 3, 2006 14:31:28 GMT -5
because i am doing everything the hardest way i could: zero exception, counting everything i eat, not going to any social events, pushing like crazy in the gym, thinking about it every 5 minutes, having no life, etc! Sounds very familiar Mo !! ;D Doing just that as we speak,and looking pretty damn good right now because of it!! We are from the same school Tim: Nothing fency, we just keep it simple and do it the hard way (even if it could be easier for the same results… we would not change because we are too much proud to suffer for our sport ;D) And i LOVE the sound of this phrase "looking pretty damn good right now". It shows confidence… and when you have a physique like Tim Wescott to back up your words, believe, it's not arrogance, it's CONFIDENCE!  You are the man Tim! #arockon6ha# #arockon6ha# #arockon6ha# |
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Post by MostMuscular on Aug 18, 2006 20:38:46 GMT -5
A number of things come to mind with most mentioned already....
Not practicing your posing enough. You should have practiced it enough to make it look effortless. I tell my posing clients that I want them to present an image of "I'm not even trying real hard and I still look this good..."
Cutting sodium too soon... If you cut out sodium during your diet phase how can you drop it out at the end from zero? It is far better to maintain a moderate to high level of sodium throughout your diet so you can manipulate it much easier at the end.
Not giving yourself enough time during your diet.... More is better in this case. It is far better to come in 4 weeks early than 4 weeks late. You can always coast the last few weeks instead of being stressed out and working overtime to get into condition.
If you're doing your last week like you did before and it worked don't change it... if it's not broke dont' fix it. However, if you want to try something new do a trial run a few weeks out to see how it works. It is better to find out it doesn't work a few weeks out (so you can have time to tweak it) then finding out on game day.
nuff said...
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Post by GerryT on Aug 19, 2006 14:17:37 GMT -5
All terrific points, Randy. You posted my mantra far as posing goes. Can't practice enough! It should look easy and second nature on stage. See competitors shake, look down at where their legs are positioned, etc. These are the ones who didn't practice!
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Post by beckie on Aug 19, 2006 21:36:21 GMT -5
and get a good posing coach who can teach you based on YOUR bodyshape!
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because i am doing everything the hardest way i could: zero exception, counting everything i eat, not going to any social events, pushing like crazy in the gym, thinking about it every 5 minutes, having no life, etc! 