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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 19, 2007 15:25:02 GMT -5
"If you want to be a lean piece of meat, then eat lean pieces of meat. if you want to be fluff, then eat cakes, breads and bagels" read that somewhere....rings true What does pizza make me?
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Post by gti steve on Mar 19, 2007 16:52:14 GMT -5
"If you want to be a lean piece of meat, then eat lean pieces of meat. if you want to be fluff, then eat cakes, breads and bagels" read that somewhere....rings true What does pizza make me? Pizza makes you awesome and oreos make you fabulous!
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 19, 2007 20:05:27 GMT -5
Pizza makes you awesome and oreos make you fabulous! WATCHOUTNOW!!!!!!
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Post by Rich on Mar 21, 2007 7:27:43 GMT -5
Mysty, I think you know what to do, but are hoping there's some "secret" you could read that would make it all easier. There isn't. You're making a lot of excuses for eating in a way that you know is wrong. The question is this: Are you committed, or aren't you?!!?Because if you are, you'll do what you need to do to keep the bf down and still build muscle mass and strength. Read some of the responses here carefully. They're chock full of all the wisdom you need. Cut simple sugars. Don't eat high GI carbs at night. Eat more often. You say you have a shake in a mug that you can drink while seeing patients. GREAT! Make it an MRP (like Prolab's Oatmeal Cinnamon Lean Mass Complex www.prolab.com/ecommerce/control/product/~product_id=10140) and now you have something balanced that will carry you through to a solid meal. Distractions? What distractions? There are only distractions for people who are distractable. Is that you? Is a pint of green beer more important to you than pulling a 405 lb dead? More important than seeing all that muscle you've built? If so ... drink up .... but then maybe your lifting is distracting you from your fast food goals. My advice - don't lie to yourself about whether or not it can be done. Be honest, and make honest choices. Let your abs distract you from the donut, not the other way around. Know that you have a bigger goal, a higher motivation, and the momentary taste rush of convenience foods runs contrary to what you want.
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Post by gti steve on Mar 21, 2007 7:42:17 GMT -5
Mysty, I think you know what to do, but are hoping there's some "secret" you could read that would make it all easier. There isn't. You're making a lot of excuses for eating in a way that you know is wrong. The question is this: Are you committed, or aren't you?!!?Because if you are, you'll do what you need to do to keep the bf down and still build muscle mass and strength. Read some of the responses here carefully. They're chock full of all the wisdom you need. Cut simple sugars. Don't eat high GI carbs at night. Eat more often. You say you have a shake in a mug that you can drink while seeing patients. GREAT! Make it an MRP (like Prolab's Oatmeal Cinnamon Lean Mass Complex www.prolab.com/ecommerce/control/product/~product_id=10140) and now you have something balanced that will carry you through to a solid meal. Distractions? What distractions? There are only distractions for people who are distractable. Is that you? Is a pint of green beer more important to you than pulling a 405 lb dead? More important than seeing all that muscle you've built? If so ... drink up .... but then maybe your lifting is distracting you from your fast food goals. My advice - don't lie to yourself about whether or not it can be done. Be honest, and make honest choices. Let your abs distract you from the donut, not the other way around. Know that you have a bigger goal, a higher motivation, and the momentary taste rush of convenience foods runs contrary to what you want. You got me motivated.
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Post by Mystic79 on Mar 21, 2007 8:58:37 GMT -5
You guys are absolutely right, I do make excuses. Cutting is the hardest thing for me to do because of my liking of food. Hell if I didn't workout I'd be a blimp. I have an addictive personality and it seems I substitute one bad thing for another. Time to change those negative addictions to positive ones.
This thread alone has given me motivation to change. The thing I really gave 100% was training in a few lifts, but I have to dig deep inside and do it for every exercise, and now., every meal.
I'm taking this week off to rest my joints/cns, and regain that drive/desire to train again.
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Post by Sal Paradise on Mar 21, 2007 10:48:55 GMT -5
GREAT POST RICH!!!!
Sal
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Post by mrbeefy on Mar 21, 2007 14:08:26 GMT -5
Agree with Rich & Sal....
But I empathize with you buddy! I'm there EVERYDAY! My dad was an alcoholic all his life, and I see similarities for myself when it comes to food....addictive.
I hung two pictures in front of my desk, just above my PC monitor that I can see ALL DAY LONG!
The one pic is a "fat" guy. The other pic is of Amhad Hadar (ABZILLA).
Above the two pics a wrote one word : "CHOICES".
I stare at those pics and that ONE WORD all day long.
When I go to the breakroom to warm up my food, I take a good long look at that. CHOICES.
Do I CHOOSE to be tha fat man....OR...do I CHOOSE to have ABS like Abzilla?
YOU, my friend have to make the choice......
Fat Man? Ripped ABS?
[glow=red,2,300]CHOOSE [/glow]
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Post by BigMikeReed on Mar 22, 2007 9:49:31 GMT -5
"If you want to be a lean piece of meat, then eat lean pieces of meat. if you want to be fluff, then eat cakes, breads and bagels" read that somewhere....rings true What does pizza make me? Well.. we are what we eat. Randy.. my wife would say that if you ate pepperoni or sausage pizza this would make you a spicy piece of beef or spicy piece of sausage..
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 22, 2007 13:14:21 GMT -5
Well.. we are what we eat. Randy.. my wife would say that if you ate pepperoni or sausage pizza this would make you a spicy piece of beef or spicy piece of sausage.. NICE
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Post by Mystic79 on Mar 24, 2007 16:17:18 GMT -5
I admit, I always say I am bulking and gaining size because I hate dieting. Food is a huge vice for me and I get alot of pleasure from having a very full meal with all the stuff I shouldn't eat if I am trying to be lean. I don't eat junk food, I just eat lots of heavier foods that taste good.
I hate the way I look. I don't know WHAT I did when I was 20 years old but I LOOKED like I lifted, and I eat WORSE but for some reason now I eat better but don't look as good as I used to. Maybe my metabolism has slowed down, but I find it so much easier to gain fat nowadays.
I have to make a choice, and the harder one is getting lean. I will list the pros and cons from my perpective of each
CUTTING
pros: - ook ALOT better - be healthier (less chance of being overweight and diabetes/heart trouble - feel better psychologically (if you look good, you feel good) - feel more attractive (leaner, healthier and overall better looking)
cons: - miss out on good meals, good drinks and overall fun factor more time consuming to have to plan every meal and think in advance of what and when I should eat. - less strength (Ive already had trouble gaining strength, but dieting just makes it worse) - inconvienance (generally harder to work life around a strict diet) - time consuming (for obvious reasons - have to be more disciplined (hard as hell to do)
It's like I have an angel and devil on my shoulder. Devil saying eat what you want, get fat and just lift to get strong., and the angel saying to diet, eat better, do cardio and get motivated.
I think motivation and drive in other areas of my life would INCREASE if I do diet and try to be lean/healthybecause I have to be on top of things and get em done, whereas bulking I can slack off more and do as I want.
I just need the motivation to DO it and STICK with it. I know I have gained good benching strength in the past few months but it hasn't really gotten me anywhere besides lifting more weight. I don't feel I look any better (maybe worse because of added weight), and it's just a number.
I just am throwing things going on my mind out to you guys. Hope you dont' mind.
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Post by cuts280 on Mar 25, 2007 3:25:43 GMT -5
Vets on the board, correct me if Iam wrong but I had read somewhere on Milos Sarcev board by Milos himself that the best quality muscle gains can be made by an individual when the person's fat percentage is in the range of 10% to 12% range. Mystic,now if you desire to be big then it is but obvious that your calorie intake is gonna be on the higher side to make the necessary strides in strength and size. Now if your fat percentage is already on the higher side then you might not not really realize what are you gaining?? whether it is muscle or fat only to realize that most of it was fat when you diet down. Strive to be leaner initially. Which means that you will have to eat cleaner foods, depending on your carb tolerance you will also have to accordingly adjust them and so on. As far as the training goes I am sure with the calorie deficit diet you are bound to loose strength during this phase but that's a small price to pay for what you are gonna achieve i.e a visually stunning body. Unless of course you are a powerlifter then you have a right to be not as concerned on how you look. Point is, strive on training heavy. Now as much as I believe in heavy straight sets and so on, I am a strong advocate that when trying to lean down FAST......antagonist supersets, trisets etc can be bad ass & a way to go . Once you achieve your desired look then ofcourse you can go back to your conventional powertraining program but this time around just making proper plans of following a sound nutrition alongside your training program so that you don't land up where you were previously. Just my two cents. #bflexsmiley1vs#
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Post by Mystic79 on Mar 25, 2007 9:17:25 GMT -5
I hear ya man so basically you are staying to diet down to start at a base which is a LOWER BF percentange (10-12%) and then bulk, but bulk clean. Again it's definately the excessive carb intake. For a small guy I have a HUGE appetite and I really am only satisfied by large meals and eating bread, peanut butter, heavy foods. ,etc. Plus I eat out alot so I get spoiled AND we all know how big portions most restaurants give us.
I just want to acheive those strength goals I had and then cut, but I am also fed up with the fat. Strength is nice I guess, but I guess I've changed and now I'd rather look good., but hey maybe I can do both? Be strong and look good. hehe
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Post by tiffany on Mar 25, 2007 10:39:50 GMT -5
It may have been suggested to you already (sorry, too tired to read the whole tread) but have you thought about carb cycling? I found I didn't have much luck on a straight low carb diet as my schedule just made it too hard not to cheat, but once my bf switched me to carb cycling, not only did I loose fat but I still continued to gain muscle. It can be a bit hard to get started but once you know the food values and how much you need it does gets easier. As for eating out, every restaurant has options, you just have to look for them and have the discipline to order. Grilled chicken salad, dressing on the side, fish (make sure its not cooked in butter or served with a cream sauce) ask to make sure veggies are prepared with no butter, request extra veggies, a side salad or rice (if still within your daily carb limit) instead of potatoes or fries. Remember, BB isn't all about strength, it is also about discipline and control. I know it feels good to lift more than the other guy but the amount of weight you use shouldn't matter if you are using proper form and tempo. It sounds like you really want all your hard work that you put in at the gym to show - buckle down for a bit and go for it. With summer just around the corner you have some extra motivation to keep you on track. It's all just a matter of setting some goals and going for it YOU CAN DO IT
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Post by Mystic79 on Mar 25, 2007 11:58:40 GMT -5
I guess the strength goals I have for myself I am/can achieve, but it's not as satisfying for some reason. I am not a superficial person, but honestly looking good makes a person feel good. Gives them that image of success and health that improves motivation., and as we all know motivation is EVERYTHING. Because that fuels you to work hard and achieve your goals.
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Post by tiffany on Mar 25, 2007 13:46:05 GMT -5
I guess the strength goals I have for myself I am/can achieve, but it's not as satisfying for some reason. I am not a superficial person, but honestly looking good makes a person feel good. Gives them that image of success and health that improves motivation., and as we all know motivation is EVERYTHING. Because that fuels you to work hard and achieve your goals. I agree with you 100% and if it helps, I have never been impressed by how much a man can lift, it's the over all package that counts. Looks, personal grooming and self confidence. I can 't name one girl who says to themselves when a guy walks in the room "gee I wonder how much he can bench?" but they will stare, drool and even fantasize (not me of course as I am very happy with my bf ;D) if he is ripped
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 25, 2007 17:18:17 GMT -5
Bottom line is to do whatever is going to make you happiest
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