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Post by gman on Oct 15, 2007 9:07:56 GMT -5
Have any of you tried a carb/protien with about 30grms carbs and 15grms of protien just before or during a workout? Just trying to get some opinions on this. I personally do this and it does not seem to upset my stomach.
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Post by Intensity on Oct 15, 2007 13:12:16 GMT -5
Absolutely, and I highly recommand it as long as (as you said) it's light enough not to upset your stomach! As far as macro nutriments go, it depends of you objective, metabolism, overall diet, kind of training, etc, etc, etc.
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Post by hossjob on Oct 15, 2007 17:36:01 GMT -5
Mo is right.
I personally like to keep carbs low pre and during workout, but then hit them post. Pre and during I like to drink a mix of BCAA's and Glutamine (Creatine added with the pre). I also like to use Beta alanine during a workout.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Oct 16, 2007 4:42:32 GMT -5
I personally do not beleive in eating or drinking anything except water during a workout. If you eat or drink a shake pre-workout,(30-45 minutes before training),the nutrients will still be present during your workout and will be brought to the muscles via the bloodstream. If you eat or drink during training,blood is forced to go to the stomach to aid digestion instead of to the muscles that you`re trying to target during training. Just my thoughts on it !  |
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Post by hossjob on Oct 16, 2007 6:12:19 GMT -5
Or you can listen to Tim. I think it's proven he knows a thing or 3,000,000....! Haha
I like BCAA's/Beta Alanine only because of this reason. It is not digested and the uptake is almost as if injecting into the blood so there is no stomach discomfort.
However, one thing I've learned is that there is more than 1 way to skin a cat (more than 1 way to do your nutrition, pre/during/post, etc...) and everyone is slightly different.
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Post by Intensity on Oct 16, 2007 9:35:57 GMT -5
Just to give a little precision, what I recommand is having your shake just before the workout (15-30 mins)... versus having it during the workout.
But at the opposite, I would rather have it during the workout than not having a meal in the previous 2 hours before going to the gym.
I would also say that you need a good timing with your other meals. I mean, obviously, I would not have a shake 15 mins before the workout if I have had a complete meal 45 mins ago.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Oct 16, 2007 11:54:15 GMT -5
However, one thing I've learned is that there is more than 1 way to skin a cat (more than 1 way to do your nutrition, pre/during/post, etc...) and everyone is slightly different. I totally agree Kyle.........evrryone has and should have their own protocols based on proven guidelines as we are all different and definately will react and respond differently to various approaches. |
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Post by dvsness on Oct 16, 2007 13:57:09 GMT -5
Wouldn't taking beta-alanine during training result in parasthesia at inappropriate times? I like the stuff, but I would not appreciate tingling while trying to concentrate on getting in another rep.
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Post by youngblood on Oct 16, 2007 17:59:54 GMT -5
Just to give a little precision, what I recommand is having your shake just before the workout (15-30 mins)... versus having it during the workout. But at the opposite, I would rather have it during the workout than not having a meal in the previous 2 hours before going to the gym. I would also say that you need a good timing with your other meals. I mean, obviously, I would not have a shake 15 mins before the workout if I have had a complete meal 45 mins ago. I guess I'm the only one willing to take a "risk" here, since I not only eat pre-workout, but I also drink pre-workout AND during the workout. If I workout at 1pm, my meals are usually timed so that I'm eating by 11-11:30am, then I drink my BCAA/EAA's shake 30min prior to my workout (12:30). Then at 1pm I'm in the gym working out, and sipping on ANOTHER seperate shake made of BCAA/EAA's, but about half the dose of BCAA's as the previous shake. Then when I'm done with the workout, I will drive to my trusty chicken slinging KFC, and have 5 chicken breasts. I'm not getting sick during the workouts, because I'm SIPPING the shake, not chugging it like I would water. Plus the nutrients are in the blood, which is inside the muscle. For more reading on this, this is the thread that got my attention: milossarcev.com/board/index.php?topic=8652.0I really do feel this has helped me in numerous ways. If anything, you should try it for the pump that this gives you!!!  |
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Post by gman on Oct 17, 2007 15:28:20 GMT -5
I usually workout around 5:30-5:45 A:M. At 4:10 A:M I have a light breakfast which usually constist of oatmeal or a healthier cold cereal w/ a scoop of protien powder. About 15 min or even during my workout have my pre.workout drink which consist of powdered gatarode and whey protien, this mix has about 30grms carbs and 15 grams protein. I think I may experiment and eliminate the 4:10 breakfast and have the gatorade/protien mix about 30-45 min prior to workout.
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Post by hossjob on Oct 17, 2007 16:13:58 GMT -5
Wouldn't taking beta-alanine during training result in parasthesia at inappropriate times? I like the stuff, but I would not appreciate tingling while trying to concentrate on getting in another rep. dvsness, I've used BA and this never happened to me. I know some people it did happen to, but it did not happen to me. |
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Post by naturalguy on Oct 24, 2007 6:54:05 GMT -5
Wouldn't taking beta-alanine during training result in parasthesia at inappropriate times? I like the stuff, but I would not appreciate tingling while trying to concentrate on getting in another rep. dvsness, I've used BA and this never happened to me. I know some people it did happen to, but it did not happen to me. BA seems to effect everyone differently as you pointed out. Like many things it's highly individual. |
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Post by Maximum6 on Oct 30, 2007 19:59:25 GMT -5
I know HossJob take in alot of fats in his diet.
I have never tried, as I'm afraid of how it might affect my gains, to reduce my carbohydrate intake, and increase my fat intake.
As of now I'm taking in alot of carbs (100g per meal), and fats stay faily low, besides coming from 2 eggs, 2TBSP flaxoil, 6oz salmon, 6 oz lean buffalo meat. This is where my majority of my fats are coming from.
Therefore, my Pre workout meal has alot of carbs/low fat, and my PWO meal is definitely alot of carbs/low fat.
I got this idea from Tim and it seems majority of bodybuilders would do the same from what I see and it has given me great gains. However I still question if highcarb/protein/lowfat diet is really the end all be all for me.
However as I am now on my "break" as I can't really train consistently because of some problems going on in life, I might give a higher fat diet a try.
Current Macronutrient intake is 74gfat/609carb/260protein over 7meals
Can anybody help me out in creating this type of diet (macronutrient wise)? All I know is what I've been doing all this time , high carb/protein/low fat
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