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Post by QuietBob on Jul 11, 2006 11:56:28 GMT -5
There are 2 ways that I can do this pose, with conflicting opinions of what is best. Just wondering if anybody has some insight of what the judges may be looking for. My question on both variations is concerning the abdominals.
The first way is to bring the chest up high and suck in the abs, almost like a vacuum pose, just not that extreme with the abs. Doing this the chest is high, lats flared, and there is a bit of definition in the abs but I lose the obliques and that abdominal hardness.
The second way is to crunch down a bit on the abs (not fully) to really show definition there and bring out the obliques. This deflates the chest a bit, narrows the lats and shoulders as well.
I've been doing it the first way as that presents more of an "X" frame, I'm just wondering if I'm hurting myself by losing tightness in the abs.
Any help is appreciated.
Bob
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Post by OptimumJoe on Jul 11, 2006 12:16:09 GMT -5
From what I've seen and experienced, I wouldn't crunch, I'd keep my Chest up to do exactly what you stated...show your "X" frame
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Post by Sal Paradise on Jul 11, 2006 12:17:14 GMT -5
My opinion is to stay with the first way and keep the chest full and show off the V-taper.
just my .02
Sal
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Post by iron58 on Jul 11, 2006 12:35:00 GMT -5
I agree. From what I have seen and experienced, the first way is much more impactful.
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Post by Massiv on Jul 11, 2006 13:09:19 GMT -5
From Recent experience. Stick your chest out and tense your stomach. Do not crunch down on it. Tighten your intercostals which will give your stomach a hard flat appearance and really stick out those lats.
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Post by GerryT on Jul 11, 2006 13:34:04 GMT -5
Agreed, first way is best. Quarter turns are not flexing poses, and sometimes a judge will call you out if he/she thinks you are flexing.
More important to show symmetry here, and first way to me is the only way in this shot.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 11, 2006 15:11:31 GMT -5
Agreed, first way is best. Quarter turns are not flexing poses, and sometimes a judge will call you out if he/she thinks you are flexing. More important to show symmetry here, and first way to me is the only way in this shot. What about the side pose Gerry. Should you twist your torso and push your chest over from the curtain side? Thats a bit of flexing. Should the tricep facing the judges be a bit flexed? |
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Post by QuietBob on Jul 11, 2006 15:36:06 GMT -5
Great replies everyone.
I'll stick with what's working.
Thanks,
Bob
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Post by GerryT on Jul 11, 2006 15:42:01 GMT -5
Randy, none of the quarter turns are flexing poses. On side shots, arms should be at your sides. I see no problem in showing tricep on outer arm (once in a while a judge might say relax the arm, so then you do).
Have been to shows where judges will call out, feet flat, arms at sides, etc. So best is to do side shots generally accepted way of
feet flat, look straight ahead and arms at sides. Again, name of the game in this round is symmetry.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 11, 2006 20:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 11, 2006 20:35:13 GMT -5
Where is the best place to get quality pictures of what to do?
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 11, 2006 21:55:45 GMT -5
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Post by Massiv on Jul 12, 2006 7:40:46 GMT -5
Gerry and Rubicon19,
When I was at my show last Saturday, the judges would not allow your arm, which is opposite the judges to be crossed in front of the torso at all. If you tried to do that, they would call you on it and make you stand straight.
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Post by Intensity on Jul 12, 2006 8:03:37 GMT -5
Interesting thread Bob,
I would say it depends of your strong points! In my case, the little edge that would give me the chest up version of the pose is not significant versus the edge i would have on my competition if i keep the abs crunch down a bit! So i decided to go with this version of the front relax pose! So i think you should do the same: Take a look at you doing both of those poses and you'll see which one is giving you a "WOW" to the judges versus the competition… because standing out is what will give you points!
Yes, there is some important guideline to posing, but i think there is no "one way to do the pose" because the best way to do it, is the way that will fit your physique and make it stands out with a WOW impression!
PS: In my mind, this is also true for other poses like front double biceps!
Mo
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 12, 2006 8:06:42 GMT -5
Gerry and Rubicon19, When I was at my show last Saturday, the judges would not allow your arm, which is opposite the judges to be crossed in front of the torso at all. If you tried to do that, they would call you on it and make you stand straight. Crap!. I look better with the arm in front of me a bit.  |
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Post by GerryT on Jul 12, 2006 13:15:52 GMT -5
Usually at the higher level shows, you get a bit more leeway. Tom (the guy in the picture) moved a bit when the photo was shot so he is not in exactly 100% proper position. This was during Jr USA, and none of the judges called for arms at sides, etc. Like Massiv stated, I've been to shows where judges asked for arms straight down. They did not want to see the inner arm on the side shots. Randy, you could try your best position and if judges call for the straight arms, then go with it and adjust to what they ask for. bodybuilding.com is an excellent source for posing info. Also, I highly recommend Gary Udit's Perfect Posing DVDs. Gary has done extensive judging and coaching and is a guru in my opinion. You can check on those at www.garyudit.com |
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Post by RUBICON19 on Jul 12, 2006 13:19:42 GMT -5
I have his DVD. Thanks as always Gerry..
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