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Post by chris4pez on Jan 28, 2008 8:24:52 GMT -5
thanks didnt realise that i guess you learn something new every day
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Post by fit on Feb 24, 2008 9:03:32 GMT -5
So in another several weeks I hope to be lean enough to turn around and up the calories.
How many of you cycle carbs while eating excess calories? Or do you keep them more even every day?
I don't want to traditionally bulk, but rather keep the pace slow and steady, very gradually upping the lean mass. I could imagine eating just as I am now but upping calories.
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Post by mrky03 on Feb 24, 2008 11:29:16 GMT -5
Fit, I think thats exactly what you should do. Eat basically the same as you are and just gradually increase calories. Don't go overboard though and you can have higher and lower calorie days just like when you're dieting to lose fat. Just keep things in check and don't expect to gain 10lbs. of muscle in the next month! lol Wouldn't that be nice!
A good rule of thumb is an old quote from Mike Mentzer, don't let your abs become memories! ;D
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Post by fit on Feb 29, 2008 7:51:00 GMT -5
By the way- as you are reducing carbs... at what point, if ever, do you beginning upping fats or protein? Is there a baseline percentage of daily calories you try to stay above?
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Post by Intensity on Feb 29, 2008 9:55:54 GMT -5
By the way- as you are reducing carbs... at what point, if ever, do you beginning upping fats or protein? Is there a baseline percentage of daily calories you try to stay above? I was about to answer this question in your journal this morning, but realized that you moved the question to this thread :-) So Chris, I'm not upping my fats or proteins. Those two are supposed to be determined to be optimal at the beginning of your diet (but obviously, you can ajust them if you realize you were wrong). For example: I make sure that I have my essential fats each day, which is approximatly 30-40g and try to keep the other fat traces to the minimum. It's going to be like this until the end of the diet. Same principle for Proteins, I try to have the optimal amount for my muscle mass (Not easy to determine with total precision) which is between 340 and 380g a day for me. After what, you manipulate the carbs to make sure your body uses them for energy but still have to use a little bodyfat as energy. Again, the idea is giving your body just a little less carbs than it needs because we dont want it to slow your metabolism too much. So after a couple of weeks dieting, your Fats and proteins will have remained the same (excepted for some little adjustments) but your carbs will have decreased a lot (maybe from a daily average of 300g to an average of 150g). In my opinion, at a certain point... let say after 18-20 weeks or at an average of less than 100g of carbs, I would recommand doing a little "off season" diet, for a minimum of 5-6 weeks, where you'll do the exact opposite: Upping the carbs for you to gain MAXimum 1lbs each week (No minimum). The objective of it is to help your metabolism getting faster... so you'll be able to have results again even if you're back at a higher average of carbs every day (Ex: maybe back at 175g). That was a long post, I hope that my english grammar wasnt so bad :-p
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Post by fit on Feb 29, 2008 10:00:08 GMT -5
that's good- very helpful.
Thanks!
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Post by beckie on Feb 29, 2008 11:41:17 GMT -5
Very good advice Mo!
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Post by fit on Mar 15, 2008 7:18:19 GMT -5
Adding Mo's response in my journal regarding carb portions on off days...
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On days when you do not lift or do cardio... when do you time carbs?
Post-workout (even if late during the evening) and 1st meal in the morning are the two meals where I always have carbs! At those moments, your body is in a catabolic state so not having carbs (even just a few) is in my opinion unproductive, even when the objective is losing fat.
So am i doing on Off days? It depends of what is the diet when you ask... Here are examples:
When my carbs average is at 200/day 40% of my carbs during the first meal (ex: 80g), 35% at lunch time (ex: 70g) 25% for dinner (ex: 50g)
When my carbs average is at 150/day 45% of my carbs during the first meal (ex: 65g), 30% at lunch time (ex: 45g) 25% for dinner (ex: 40g)
When my carbs average is at 100/day 50% of my carbs during the first meal (ex: 50g), 30% at lunch time (ex: 30g) 20% for dinner (ex: 20g)
So the less carbs I have in my diet, the more is the proportion during the 1st meal, but it's always around 40-50%.
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Post by d1swanny on Mar 15, 2008 23:07:55 GMT -5
I feel lucky to be able to come on this site and learn so much so fast! Thank you, that is great advice!
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