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Post by Sal Paradise on Dec 17, 2008 21:47:09 GMT -5
I'm just curious what some think of this structure.
I was asked by someone to look at it and give feedback.
I didn't see anything majorly wrong with it so I am asking some people (WOTW) that I value opinions of very strongly.
This is for a man 265lbs with decent musculature - heck it may even be me, it's not but just a frame of refence.
There are no carbs after workouts simply because it didn't seem to make much difference and being a lit carb fobic after 4PM.
Let me hear it!
Thank you all,
Jeremy
Diet:
4:30 am 50g of Protein and Amino’s when I wake up
6:30 – 7:00am 1 cup of oatmeal
9:00 am 1 cup of low fat cottage cheese w/ ½ cups of mandarin oranges
11:30 am ½ cup of ground turkey (turkey is washed after cooking) on a whole wheat tortilla with a banana
1:30 pm ½ cup of ground turkey on whole wheat tortilla and 40gm of protein.
2:30 pm workout
4:00 pm post workout shake with amino’s 50g protein
5-6:00 pm dinner. This is the kicker because of schedule it will be Subway most of the time but it could be hit or miss on what’s for dinner.
9-10:00pm 40g of protein.
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Post by Intensity on Dec 17, 2008 22:02:21 GMT -5
Couple of questions:
1) The more important question... What's the objective of the diet?
2) What's his maintenance diet? I mean, some 265lbs guys would lose weight with that diet and some other would gain weight... depends of what the person eat before starting the diet!
And two very important things:
1) Carb right after the workout and 1st thing in the morning are CRUTIAL! Even when in a weight lost diet, your body needs those to switch from catabolic to anabolic state... and believe me, if the amount of carb is reasonable, your body wont transform it into bodyfat... but will only use it to keep your metabolism faster and improve your next performances!
2) In my opinion your carb sources are not ideal. Bread and fruits wouldn't be my first choices.
Hope it helps!
Mo
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Post by mrbeefy on Dec 18, 2008 14:19:50 GMT -5
Also, speaking from experience, what is his medical condition? The MAIN goal for all of us is to keep healthy. we need to structure our goals and diet around your individual medical condition too. For a number of years, I wanted to "bulk-up" with lean mass. I did, and now my blood pressure is paying for it. Mo makes a lot of sense. You have to be careful of their individual "sensativities" (ie: sugars from simple/camplex carbs), and how their body process's them. Most people are "carb" sensative, but the "Giant Killer" Padilla, once told me that he is just the opposite. Nutrient timing is very key important. It's hard to comment on "just" a diet in our realm! To say this diet is "good" based on only knowing it's a 265 pound male wouldn't be fair. So many things to consider: Goals Health Age Experience Time Motivation Etc, etc.etc. With only that diet...all I could say is it "appears" clean. Jusy my 2 cents.  |
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Post by Sal Paradise on Dec 18, 2008 15:22:02 GMT -5
Thanks guys!
I have asked for a little more info and maybe once i get that we can re-evaluate.
I know he figured it was totaling around 2500-3000 cals per day a drop form a previous intake of roughly 4000 per.
I thought he had mentioned a contest but don't know for sure.
Right now I know he is simply trying to drop some extra belly fat and wanted to clean things up.
He's been on this type of thing for about 3 weeks now and didn't geel like it was working - I explained three weeks is just the starting point.
So I have asked for more info and when I have it, I'll post that as well.
Thanks again - this guy has wanted to lean up for a long time but gets dicouraged.
If he was local to me I would be able to help to a much greater degree but unfortunately he is not.
Jeremy
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Post by mrbeefy on Dec 18, 2008 15:34:08 GMT -5
Simple stuff then Jeremy....
Cardio, cardio, cardio and Clean diet, eat every few hours, keep protein up, and veggies in.
Lift 3-5 days per week, get adequate rest.
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Post by Sal Paradise on Dec 18, 2008 19:16:38 GMT -5
yeah - I always worry about some of the guys who you know are carrying extra weight and know if they are 250+ they could drop some pretty easy - unless of course you Big Eric!! - it's just a matter of truly eating clean for a while and working at it.
Sometimes I hesistatet to help because even when you lay it out in simple terms they try to complicate it or don't really think how small cheats done too many times will throw everything to hell.
But I do what I can - I'm no expert which is why I posted this.
Hopefully with a little help this guy can get where he wants.
Jeremy
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Post by RUBICON19 on Dec 18, 2008 20:18:31 GMT -5
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Post by Intensity on Dec 31, 2008 12:45:09 GMT -5
Some updates Jeremy? How is it going?
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Post by Sal Paradise on Jan 30, 2009 2:07:20 GMT -5
Some updates Jeremy? How is it going? Honestly I don''t know. I'll check in with my buddy and ask... Thanks for the reminder I just missed this for soem reason. Pretty sad considering i made the original post!!! I'lll check in with him and post up any info. I do know he has not be dieting much as he has been traveling every weekend with his son's sports team. The went to nationals and even went to Canada to play some stuff. So I doubt he has made any progress but I'll find out! Jeremy |
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