Thinkbig
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Post by Thinkbig on Nov 19, 2004 17:25:40 GMT -5
Ok guys, after much thought and revision, I have come up with the following list:
Upon Rising: Fast acting protein/Glutamine-BCAA, Vit.C, Vit/Min.
Before Meals:Lipoic Acid,R-Lipoic Acid,Vanadyl,Chromium,
Pre-Training:Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C
Post-Training:Fast Acting Protein, Dextrose, Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C
This is merely my latest revision, PLEASE feel free to add things, as we go along we will revise when to take them and why we feel they are important.
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Post by Thinkbig on Nov 19, 2004 17:50:57 GMT -5
Bumping for some replies...
Surely someone can name some things we should add to the list.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 19, 2004 17:54:47 GMT -5
TB,I`m not a big suplement guy myself,I just take a few basic ones I beleive in and I truly can`t afford to buy a mega-amount ..not that I would anyway.
The guy to ask on this subject among others here, is bodyfx.
He know`s supplements like the back of his hand,and I`m sure he`ll offer his opinion once he see`s this thread.
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Post by Thinkbig on Nov 19, 2004 17:56:55 GMT -5
AWESOME BRO !, I respect the hell out of him and take his opinions and run with them!!!
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Post by ntrllftr on Nov 19, 2004 18:17:05 GMT -5
What about ZMA at bed time? I take it. Not sure if it really helps immune or not, but I seem to be pretty health more often since using it.
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Post by Thinkbig on Nov 19, 2004 18:26:54 GMT -5
Ok so we will throw it in as well!
REMEMBER: Even Though Not Many Can Afford To Take Everything We List @ Once, You Can Still Pick and Choose Which Ones You Feel Work/Or Would Like To Try!!!
What we are attempting to do is give bodybuiulders a chance to see what is helpful and when they should take it for the most benefit, in a perfect world you could take all these @ once and this would be how to line them up.
Upon Rising: Fast acting protein/Glutamine-BCAA, Vit.C, Vit/Min.
Before Meals:Lipoic Acid,R-Lipoic Acid,Vanadyl,Chromium,
Pre-Training:Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C
Post-Training:Fast Acting Protein, Dextrose, Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C
Before Bed: ZMA
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Post by MassiveG on Nov 19, 2004 19:36:21 GMT -5
I base my nutrition around a few things.
AM
upon arising 50 gram whey ion shake
2-3 shakes a day to up the protein per day.
50-100 grams of whey ion x/micellar casein mix (70/30) in Carb solutions choc milk or crystal light.
I get my protein unflavored just for that reason and let the drink flavor it!
Pre work out shake
whey ion x-40 grams
Maltodextran-60 grams
Post work out
6-10 grams of BCAA's 10 grams L-Glutamine in 10 oz Welches grape juice
or for the $$ conscious whey Ion x in Grape juice
or ideally whey hydrolysate malto and dextrose in water...if $$ aren't really a problem there are plenty of other commercial post work out blends that are really good.
Night time shake before bed to offset catabolism
Micellar Casein or calcium caseinate.
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Post by Maximum6 on Nov 19, 2004 20:33:39 GMT -5
I say:
Upon waking: Whey shake, Vitamin C,B Creatine
Preworkout: Protein shake if i don't have time...eggwhites if i do.
Pwo: Whey shake , dextrose, Creatine, VitaminC,E
Before Bed: Flax oil...w/ milk....or casein shake..
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Post by In-Human on Nov 19, 2004 20:36:33 GMT -5
Pre-Training:Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C Post-Training:Fast Acting Protein, Dextrose, Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C [/b] This is merely my latest revision, PLEASE feel free to add things, as we go along we will revise when to take them and why we feel they are important.[/quote] TB, I think the only change I would make is on the pre shake I would go with Glut 30 grams, 60-80 grams protein, 1200 IU Vita-E and 1500 mgs Vita-C, I prefer Creatine post only on training days only, to much bloat and appetite suppresion, just to heavy in my gut. Post 100 grams protein, 50/50 grams Dex/Malto, 15 grams Creatine in grape juice, baked potatoe and banana for the extra spike. Just my .02 cents worth... |
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Post by MikeLifts659 on Nov 19, 2004 22:02:51 GMT -5
I have read so much about glutamine and still do not know if it is a worthwhile supplement or not. There seems to be so many opinions and they all seem to differ.
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Post by Jesse on Nov 19, 2004 22:48:26 GMT -5
I prefer Creatine post only on training days only, to much bloat and appetite suppresion, just to heavy in my gut Ahh finally someone who gets the same way with creatine... do you know how it feels to not feel crazy anymore? |
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Post by Jesse on Nov 19, 2004 22:50:26 GMT -5
I have read so much about glutamine and still do not know if it is a worthwhile supplement or not. There seems to be so many opinions and they all seem to differ. I am waiting for bodyfx to chime in on this one. I still have yet to get any but I have been thinking about it. |
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Post by sockrocker on Nov 19, 2004 22:54:38 GMT -5
layne (str8flexed) posted a bunch about glutamine in another thread that wasn't originally about glutamine at all...I think it was something about "finding the right protein" maybe? he doesn't seem to think it is worth using
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Post by Jesse on Nov 19, 2004 22:56:22 GMT -5
layne (str8flexed) posted a bunch about glutamine in another thread that wasn't originally about glutamine at all...I think it was something about "finding the right protein" maybe? he doesn't seem to think it is worth using Thank you sir... I have to go and read it! |
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Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 19, 2004 22:58:28 GMT -5
I personally didn`t feel I benefitted from it, but maybe I wasn`t taking enough...who knows.
EAT !!!!!
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Post by In-Human on Nov 19, 2004 23:05:08 GMT -5
Mike, I was on the fence for a while since your body does make Glut, but after trying it pre workout it made a huge difference for me in the energy department...
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Post by Jesse on Nov 19, 2004 23:11:12 GMT -5
I personally didn`t feel I benefitted from it, but maybe I wasn`t taking enough...who knows. EAT !!!!! OK, see ya |
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Post by Thinkbig on Nov 20, 2004 9:56:55 GMT -5
I agree 100% thats WHOLE FOOD is the best bet always!!!
but I also beleive that if you can afford it, then there are alot of supplements you can take for an extra bit of an edge...
Its like I always said, "I would easily drink rancid, curdled, baby vomit if someone could showm eIt would make me grow!"
Some others however do not have a credo like that and want there protein powders to "Taste" good I do not eat for pleasure I eat for results...go figure.
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Post by bodyfx on Dec 3, 2004 10:30:55 GMT -5
I am waiting for bodyfx to chime in on this one. I still have yet to get any but I have been thinking about it. I think you know my opinion on this now, LOL! |
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Post by str8flexed on Dec 6, 2004 21:23:25 GMT -5
Ok guys, after much thought and revision, I have come up with the following list: Upon Rising: Fast acting protein/Glutamine-BCAA, Vit.C, Vit/Min.
Before Meals:Lipoic Acid,R-Lipoic Acid,Vanadyl,Chromium,
Pre-Training:Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.C
Post-Training:Fast Acting Protein, Dextrose, Creatine, Glutamine, BCAA, Vit.CThis is merely my latest revision, PLEASE feel free to add things, as we go along we will revise when to take them and why we feel they are important. I've already elaborated on my feelings on glutamine vanadyl only increases glucose transport in the basal non-glucose stimulated state... which really isn't much of a benefit unless you are hyperglycemic as your body will just release hormones to increase blood glucose again. chromium is useless unless you are hyperglycemic again... and there is some evidence that higher doses of it may cause DNA damage. -Layne |
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