Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:20:15 GMT -5
Alright guys, I am going to start dieting around february still growing right now...
The leanest I have ever been was two years ago I dieted down to about 8% bodyfat and had some decent abs for the beach.
Needless to say I lost alot of muscle and was in no way contest ready.
I just want to get a couple of questions answered and make sure I have everything ready for optimal leanness so to speak
What sort of model do you guys use to structure diet?
When do you suggest I do cardio?
Do you think I should go lowfat-medium carb or medium fat-lowcarb?
I have a few more question, I will ask as I think of them
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim Wescott on Dec 21, 2004 18:29:07 GMT -5
Alright guys, I am going to start dieting around february still growing right now... The leanest I have ever been was two years ago I dieted down to about 8% bodyfat and had some decent abs for the beach. Needless to say I lost alot of muscle and was in no way contest ready. I just want to get a couple of questions answered and make sure I have everything ready for optimal leanness so to speak What sort of model do you guys use to structure diet? When do you suggest I do cardio? Do you think I should go lowfat-medium carb or medium fat-lowcarb? I have a few more question, I will ask as I think of them 1.- 50P,40C,10F Approximately! 2.- After training 3.- Medium carb/lowfat Just the way I approach it,I`m sure everyones plans will vary. |
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:33:01 GMT -5
Tim, you get very lean for your contest's ;D
...I aspire to be lean like that, my question os do you have a problem gaining bodyfat, yes evryone can gain it I know but lets say offseason do you generally get really high bodyfat???
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim Wescott on Dec 21, 2004 18:36:55 GMT -5
I don`t really get sloppy but right now I`m smoother than a baby`s ass,with just barely visible abs.
I have to diet and do cardio,for 16-20 weeks to really get shredded .
The fat that I do gain is pretty evenly distributed for the most part, except I have a tendency to store a bit more in the abs and obliques,which ironically enough, are one of my best bodyparts...... when I`m in contest condition.
|
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:41:24 GMT -5
Yeah im as smooth as a chaffed dolphins crotch!!! :Happy Spinner: :Double Puke:
Ihave always been afraid of doing cardio after training because I train for so long1 1/2hours or so, sometimes less around an hour and fifteen I always thought I would go Catobolic- but if it works for you I will try it.
|
|
|
|
Post by Maximum6 on Dec 21, 2004 18:42:44 GMT -5
i don't think a bodybuilder can get THAT fat....but over the course of 1-2 yrs of bulking..they can probably get pretty rounded...but still not considered "FAT". I've seen many bulked up photos...so i can tell who bulked eating cakes..or who bulked eating oatmeal. ;D Right now...I'm weighing in at about 120+lb.. and i don't have that little FLAB over my pants. I guess my physique keeps everything nice and tight.  |
|
|
|
Post by Maximum6 on Dec 21, 2004 18:45:30 GMT -5
Yeah im as smooth as a chaffed dolphins crotch!!!   Ihave always been afraid of doing cardio after training because I train for so long1 1/2hours or so, sometimes less around an hour and fifteen I always thought I would go Catobolic- but if it works for you I will try it. you could try the little cardio route. Where you do cardio on your ab training day only....but still keep active through out the week... but if you're getting into a contest..don't listen to me ;D I'm a newb when it comes to contest stuff...too confusing...(water control, carb control, sodium ,etc.) |
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:46:18 GMT -5
Brother, I am 336 @ 6'1 so I bring a lil more to the table :Big Laugh:
I have been focusing on bringing up weak points this year, and am ready to tear it down and bring the noise!
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim Wescott on Dec 21, 2004 18:46:54 GMT -5
While I don`t beleive in living in the gym,and I do try to get in and out quickly,I only do 16-20 minutes of cardio(usually)....I doubt if that would cause a problem.
Some people act like if they stay in the gym one second over 60-90 minutes they are gonna` disappear.
Just a lot of hype IMO if you are eating good and have good post-workout nutrition,you`ll be fine...of course there is a fine line between training hard and staying in the gym too long,but if you keep moving and don`t talk to anyone,you`ll be in and out in no time flat.
I have seen guy`s who say they train 90 minutes a day to 2 hours or more,when most of that time is spent bullsh*teting around!!
I do not mean you ,but I`m sure you`ve seen these psuedo iron warriors before!! ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim Wescott on Dec 21, 2004 18:50:11 GMT -5
TB,the last time we shot the breeze ,weren`t you around 300 pounds? At 336 now,if you get to a low BF%,you`ll be scary!!  |
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:51:46 GMT -5
I agree Tim, I generally take about 3 minutes in between my sets because I like to lift heavy I have been able to build appreciable bulk.
I am trying to rev it up so to speak, I guess I am mainly afraid of losing the size I am known for and worked so hard to build. :Crotch Kick:
|
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:52:55 GMT -5
Yeah I have put on some since then bro!!!
Was thinking of maybe working with BodyFx or someone who can guide me, yah know.
|
|
|
|
Post by Maximum6 on Dec 21, 2004 18:54:25 GMT -5
if i feel i really lifted as hard as i can..and need more rest..a max rest would be 3min. But i usually just go 120secs as a rule for Medium-hard intensity exercises..just so i can get a sip of water, change the weights..and stretch a little.
|
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 21, 2004 18:54:41 GMT -5
I think I could do well if I can get lean enough to compete, my height hurts a little 6'1 I have to weigh so much to be competetive. :Head Bash:
|
|
|
|
Post by Maximum6 on Dec 21, 2004 19:02:01 GMT -5
its easy for small guys like me and tim to look bulky... ;D
And also easy to fit into a few divisions of weight class ..i suppose. ;D
|
|
|
|
Post by Tim Wescott on Dec 21, 2004 20:34:54 GMT -5
Yeah I have put on some since then bro!!! Was thinking of maybe working with BodyFx or someone who can guide me, yah know. Good choice,the man know`s his sh*t!!  I`m gonna` give his routine a shot in a couple of weeks myself. |
|
|
|
Post by bodyfx on Dec 22, 2004 9:34:51 GMT -5
Alright guys, I am going to start dieting around february still growing right now... The leanest I have ever been was two years ago I dieted down to about 8% bodyfat and had some decent abs for the beach. Needless to say I lost alot of muscle and was in no way contest ready. I just want to get a couple of questions answered and make sure I have everything ready for optimal leanness so to speak What sort of model do you guys use to structure diet? When do you suggest I do cardio? Do you think I should go lowfat-medium carb or medium fat-lowcarb? I have a few more question, I will ask as I think of them -cardio first thing in the morning if possible...if not, right after training -high protein/medium fat/low carb |
|
|
|
Post by Intensity on Dec 22, 2004 14:51:44 GMT -5
Hi ThinkBIG,
This is the absolute, indisputable truth ;D ;D ...
Seriously, here is what works for me:
- Low fat, medium carb
- Very high intensity (and heavy as usual) training
- 50% protein - 40% carbs - 10% fats (big picture)
- If you add cardio (i dont) do it after your workout
Good luck
Mo
|
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 22, 2004 15:51:36 GMT -5
iNTENSITY, TIM, ERIC, MAX!!!
Thanks for the info Bro's I appreciate it much!!!
|
|
Thinkbig
Novice Bodybuilder
Elite Member
Growing!!!
Posts: 133
|
Post by Thinkbig on Dec 22, 2004 15:58:37 GMT -5
BodyFX, I was thinking of doing 30 min. Cardio in morning as you say...
...with me being so heavy what should i take before cardio(i.e. branched Chain amino's/how much,Gltamine/howmuch)etc.
I was thinking maybe 15grams powdered BCAA'a is that enough to stop muscle wasting?
maybe 15grams Glutamine as well?
Also would this slow down the amount of fat I would burn , as opposed to just doing it on a completely empty stomach?
|
|
