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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 22:24:18 GMT -5
6. Craig Titus
5. Markus Ruhl
4. Gunter Schlierkamp
3. Dexter Jackson
2. Chris Cormier
1. Jay Cutler
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 22:26:44 GMT -5
Going solely by the picures I`ve seen,I would have given this show to Chris Cormeir with Dexter Jackson in second.While Jay Cutler is a phenomanal bodybuilder he was conditioned but down in muscle size considerably! The judging has become a joke nowadays.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 22:34:00 GMT -5
This from Flex Magazine Online:
Dexter Robbed?
COLUMBUS SHOWDOWN Dexter Robbed?
As Jay Cutler took his third straight Arnold Classic tittle the consensus of the audience and Team FLEX was that Dexter Jackson should have been the rightful winner instead of the recipient of third place. However, history now will record that Jay Cutler won the 2004 Arnold Classic by one point over Chris Cormier. The special $10,000 posing award was won by King Kamali and for the third time in succession Jay Cutler won the most muscular award.
2004 Arnold Classic:: Final Results
1, Jay Cutler 2. Chris Cormier 3. Dexter Jackson 4. Gunther Schlierkamp 5. Marcus Ruhl 6. Craig Titus 7. Gustavo Badell 8. King Kamali 9. Ahmad Haidar 10. Ernie Taylor 11.Bob Cicherillo 12. Mustafa Mohammad 13. Greg Kovacs
Top five qualify for the 2004 Mr Olympia
Scroll down for links to all the photo galleries
The 2004 Arnold Classic prejudging was one of the most exciting and competitive in the contest's history. Leading the pack are Dexter Jackson, currently possessing the momentum of an express train, a newly streamlined Jay Cutler and a rejuvenated Chris Cormier. Kick in Gunter Schlierkamp shaking off his sub par look of last year, and a massive Markus Ruhl recovered from the triceps injury that put him out of the 2003 Olympia, and the Columbus muscle bash to be decided tonight is one of epic proportions.
FLEX's pick for the top five are: 1) Dexter Jackson; 2) Chris Cormier; 3) Jay Cutler; 4) Markus Ruhl; 5) Gunter Schlierkamp.
Most overlooked athlete: Gustavo Badell.
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Post by robertparis on Mar 6, 2004 22:37:20 GMT -5
Explain something to me: how in hell is Mustafa's body bad enough to be 12th place?!
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 22:47:06 GMT -5
Totally ridiculous to have Craig Titus place so high and Mohammad so low.I also would have placed Badell and Haidair ahead of Titus and Kamali.Greg Kovacs is a real nice guy but should just retire or powerlift as he isn`t on this level of competitors.In short he sucked! ;D
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Post by robertparis on Mar 6, 2004 22:52:38 GMT -5
I agree. Kovacs sucked so bad I felt sorry for him. Hey, just PM'd you.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 23:10:19 GMT -5
My choice,Chris Cormeir against the winner Jay Cutler!
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 6, 2004 23:12:07 GMT -5
I don`t think I`ve ever seen Cutler so small.His lats in the pose above are non-existant!
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Post by GerryT on Mar 7, 2004 1:58:51 GMT -5
Much as I like Jay, would have had him 3rd behind Dexter and Chris. Mustafa should have been much higher than 12th. Odd judging to say the least.
Looks like Jay was trying to play Dexter's game of placing conditioning ahead of sheer mass.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 7, 2004 10:21:54 GMT -5
You`re right Gerry,I think these guy`s should try to look the best they can for their own genetic bodytype.Everyone in the past who tried to play the size game to knock off Ronnie failed.I think Jay did the same thing in reverse by coming in too small.He has proved in the past that he can be cut at a heavier weight and he should continue along those lines as long as he doesn`t ruin his symmetry!
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Post by robertparis on Mar 7, 2004 13:30:25 GMT -5
Yeah TJ, but if you remember the last time he came in ripped AND huge (2001 Mr. O) he was caught using diuretics. Of course the findings were thrown out after the fact because they didn't use an IOC accredited lab.
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Post by powerhouse7 on Mar 9, 2004 20:51:35 GMT -5
These pics make jay look better then he actually did. He seemed on stage to look a bit flat to me. I am a cutler fan but I really felt it should have been Dex, chris, and then jay. BUT... remember in bodybuilding the biggest name wins. ;D -powerhouse
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Post by robertparis on Mar 10, 2004 6:38:26 GMT -5
Actually, you know the dumbest thing? He probably won for one reason: he had ripped glutes. That's been the criticism of him for the last few years. Stupid.
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Ken B.
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Nuff said!
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Post by Ken B. on Mar 10, 2004 10:56:06 GMT -5
Chris Corimer must be knid of like Ken Waller. He never impresses me much when I see him alone but when he's next to someone you see how big he really is and from these pics I think he would have been my pick for winner as well good good quality.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 10, 2004 11:01:14 GMT -5
I like cuts ,and definition but I also like the "fuller" look Cormeir displays here along with being quite muscular.No GH gut either ,that`s encouraging!
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Ken B.
Novice Bodybuilder
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Nuff said!
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Post by Ken B. on Mar 10, 2004 11:04:38 GMT -5
No GH gut either ,that`s encouraging! Thank gawdddd!
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