My Current Bulking Diet...

[Troyster]

Example of one day:
5,000 calories (2500 carbs of starches and fibers/2500 protein and fats):

- Meal 1
12 egg whites/ 2 whole eggs
1 ounce oats
1 banana
6 cups puffed wheat
2 cups skim milk
2 cornbread muffins (substitute ground oatmeal for flour and unsweetened applesauce for oil)
(710 cals carbs/444 cals protein and fat)

- Meal 2
3 scoops protein powder
1 banana
1 cup skim
1 cup fruit juice
1 cup fruit (frozen mix)
(322 carb cals/375 protein cals)

- Meal 3
6 oz ext lean ground beef (fried and thoroughly rinsed)
1/2 cup corn
1/2 cup tomato sauce (my mix)
2 cornbread muffins
(220 carb cals/ 396 protein cals)

- Meal 4
8 oz chicken breast
1 cup rice
1/2 cup corn
1 apple
(378 carb cals/392 protein cals)

- Meal 5
6 oz ext lean ground beef (fried and thoroughly rinsed)
1/2 cup corn
1/2 cup tomato sauce (my mix)
2 cornbread muffins
(220 carb cals/ 396 protein cals)

- Meal 6
3 scoops protein powder
1 banana
1 cup skim
1 cup fruit juice
1 cup fruit (frozen mix)
(322 carb cals/375 protein cals)

- Meal 7
2.5 oz chicken breast
1 cup rice
1/2 cup corn
(298 carb cals/ 123 protein cals)

T

[Maximum6]

this bulk looks really dirty.

[Troyster]

Maximum6 said:

this bulk looks really dirty.

LMAO, yeah maybe I should cut back on all that McDonald's

[Tim Wescott]

It look`s damn good to me!

Troy,you`re gonna get HUGE !!!! ;D

Or should I say....HUGER??

[Troyster]

Tim said:

It look`s damn good to me!

Troy,you`re gonna get HUGE !!!! ;D

Or should I say....HUGER??

LOL, thanks Tim. Well... I'm very full I can tell you that

[Tim Wescott]

I`ll bet you are,that`s a lot of food!

I gotta` get my diet in order ,I haven`t been eating anywhere near enough ,especially last week.

[Maximum6]

You guys are crazy!! ;D

[J65]

I see that your biggest meal is your first and that makes a lot of sense.

What is thoroughly rinsing ground beef?

Hope that doesn't mean washing it with soap. ;D

[Troyster]

J65 said:

I see that your biggest meal is your first and that makes a lot of sense.

What is thoroughly rinsing ground beef?

Hope that doesn't mean washing it with soap. ;D

HEHE, nope just water. I wish I could afford to eat sirloin or ground round every day but I can't. So I get away with extra lean ground beef but I cook it plain, strain it and actually run hot water on it to remove any additional fat. Still works out to pretty high in fat but keeps my wallet fat as well.

As for the biggest meal it's just cause I'm the most hungry in the morning (LOL, you should see on-diet -- I eat 36 egg whites for breakfast). As long as I get those cals in over 24 hours, it really doesn't matter when. I have a completely different approach that's based on a 24-hour period. As long as the cals are eaten within that period, that's all that matters. However, I like them spread across the day cause when I get hungy I start getting cravings from hell Also, it's best to have a good flow of nutrients at all times.

A lot of the studies done that recommend not eating after 6:00 pm, for example, were done on your typical "couch-potato" North American who doesn't exercise. I don't find any variation no matter what time it is.

T

[Mystic79]

Maximum,

How does his diet look "dirty'? You do realize that certain people need to eat more cals and sometimes carbs to gain weight, don't you? How many years of training/diet experience do you have? How old are you? Show some respect and show some humility.

Troyster,

Diet looks good! As long as you're in the gym and staying active you should be able to keep the same BF.

[J65]

on: Today at 15:18:28 Troyster wrote
HEHE, nope just water. I wish I could afford to eat sirloin or ground round every day but I can't. So I get away with extra lean ground beef but I cook it plain, strain it and actually run hot water on it to remove any additional fat. Still works out to pretty high in fat but keeps my wallet fat as well.

Thanks for the tip. I'm the newbie around here. Just started two weeks ago. Actually getting a little stronger, little by little. Eat appx.7 times a day now. Never thought I could eat that much. Also never thought that I would be buying eggs in 2 1/2 dozen cartons. 36 egg whites, now that would be a challenge.

Have gained 8 lbs so far(weigh myself every morning when I wake up) with little added to the waist. Started at 152, now at 160.

Thanks for sharing your expertise and the best to you and your wife.

[Troyster]

Hey J65, we're all "newbies" in one way or another and one can always learn more about anything, so don't think of yourself in a "lowly way".

Thanks for the kind comments Just remember that there are several ways to approach dieting and not everyone's ideas are the same. Most folks I've seen here are open and tolerant of others' approaches.

For example, many folks believe that fats, and lots of them, are a good thing to take in. I don't... well, I shouldn't say that. It's just that the volume of meat (white and red) that I eat per day = lots of fat without adding any (though most don't seem to realize that)... and ground beef... well it's mostly very fatty (even the extra-lean).

Also, egg whites are sold in milk-like cartons. You can buy them without the yolk (if you so desire). I buy them in 4 litre milk cartons = 63 egg whites in a carton. I couldn't imagine cracking out 36 egg whites... too time consuming Eggbeaters sells just whites... just check around that type of stuff at your grocery store, you'll find them.

Anyways, don't be afraid to ask questions! Take in as much info. as you can get, then make a decision on how to apply what you've learned... Finally, and most importantly, weigh its value based on results -- not everbody reacts the same to foods.

T

[Tim Wescott]

Troy,I definately agree on the fat intake.

I don`t add in any oils or anything as I think we get enough trace fat in egg yolks,peanut buttermmeat ,chicken,etc.

I go with a high protein,moderate carb,low fat diet for a show and I cycle carbs .

[Troyster]

Tim said:

Troy,I definately agree on the fat intake.

I don`t add in any oils or anything as I think we get enough trace fat in egg yolks,peanut buttermmeat ,chicken,etc.

I go with a high protein,moderate carb,low fat diet for a show and I cycle carbs .

Pretty much the same here. I don't cycle (though I have with good results in the past), I switch to all carbs from fiberous veggies (non-starchy) roughly halfway to the show. LMAO, that was 1,000 calories on my diet/day this spring and early summer... FM, you know how much veggies that is to make up 1,000 cals (peppers, onions, mushrooms, zucchini)? HAHA, I still can't fathom it, it all seems so surreal at this point...

[J65]

Also, egg whites are sold in milk-like cartons. You can buy them without the yolk (if you so desire). I buy them in 4 litre milk cartons = 63 egg whites in a carton. I couldn't imagine cracking out 36 egg whites... too time consuming Eggbeaters sells just whites... just check around that type of stuff at your grocery store, you'll find them.

Damn, that would appx. be a gallon(4 litres). I have seen them in pints(appx. 1/2 litre) at the local supermarkets.

I actually don't mind cracking the eggs. Have the electric burner get warm, while cracking the eggs and see how cleanly I can separate them. I'm becoming a pro at doing that.

I' m going to stick with my current diet and workout routine for another couple of weeks. Seems to be working for me, not overtraining or undertraining. Probably in a couple of weeks may try to add different movements so things don't become monotonous.

Gotta go for now, thanks for the tips and advice, and take care.

[Maximum6]

I have fat in my diet..mostly 6oz of salmon and traces of fat from other sources. But as time pass..i'm going for 3 heaping tablespoons of flax in my oatmeal!! ;D

I generally go KETO..as one would say..on my low rest days. Eating Steaks and stuff thats higher in fat. On my high carb days...i leave out the steaks.....and just keep the important fats...in my diet.

[Troyster]

Ketosis works for some people. Although I have tried CKD and flat keto with pretty good results, I never found it valuable while bulking (although some folks run CKD year-round -- or similar anyway). Nowdays, I don't do keto; nor do I cycle carbs.

I find, generally, added oil serves no purpose. All animal protein sources are loaded with EFAs. I'd rather eat real food to equal those calories and get more protein intake. For example, while cutting on a contest diet, I eat roughly 2 lbs of chicken breast/day. That's 1466 calories and 32 grams of FAT (THAT'S almost 300 calories from fat -- or %21 of the calories from chicken alone are from fat). Funny, chicken breasts are stamped as %2 fat... but that is outright BS. As I say, people eat so much more fat than they tend to realize, without adding anything.

If I'm itching for some "fatty" taste, I'll have some MCT oil. What's cool about MCT is it counts as carb calories and doesn't detract from my protein/fat calories.

T

[Maximum6]

i don't use oils...i use Flaxseed...which has alot of fiber!! Good for longevity healthy.

I also did studying on amount of omega of the following in 1/4 cup and this is the descending order of which has more omega.

Flaxseed
walnut
olive oil
almonds
seseme
cashew=pumkin seed
Sunflower seed.

And yes..peanuts has no omega 3..only omega 6.

I personally would like to top my oatmeal off with some almonds..but for overall health i'll sacrifice that for Flaxseed. ;D

[Troyster]

ahh, flax seed. I thought you meant flax oil. Yeah, definitely good grains

[Maximum6]

It is said that 3TBSP of flaxseed (ungrounded measurement) actually has thermo effect for fat loss.