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Post by diecast747 on Aug 30, 2004 19:34:07 GMT -5
I work at GNC as most of you know.....part time while going to school.
This one guy I now comes in alot and he swears by Nitro Tech protein.....he says he's tried them all and nitro tech has given him better gains. Not only him but numerous people say this!
it makes me kinda wonder about buying it....what do you think?
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Post by ChrisC on Aug 30, 2004 19:56:37 GMT -5
If I had spent that much money on protein, I would try and rationalize the fact that I was getting ripped off by saying I had never seen such good gains too.... You can buy protein surprisingly cheaply if you move away from the big name brands. www.trueprotein.com lets you customize your own protein for about 5 bucks a lb. contrast this with muscletech at 30 bucks for less than two lbs of protein.... nitrotech really isn't any different from any other brand, except they really jack the price up for that sutff. <rant> muscletech (the company behind nitrotech) have a particularly abhorrent advertizing approach where they target new lifters by showing photos of bodybuilders clearly offseason and then show studio photos of the same lifter after they have gone through a full contest prep. they then ascribe the difference in physiques to muscletech products. muscletch is an ethically bankrupt company. </rant> Unless you get an *amazing* discount for working at gnc (i'm talking > 70%) then you are better off not using something like nitrotech. you can get a much better "bang per buck" elsewhere. p.s. sorry about the rant
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Post by Maximum6 on Aug 30, 2004 20:08:45 GMT -5
what may work for someone may not work for others. Get Optimum...good amino profile..you can't go wrong... You're really getting the good BANG for your Buck! If you're worried about their ingedients though...you can't go wrong with Vanilla Ice Cream. Mixes better than the chocolate one because the cocoa doesn't sink to the bottom....and you get 1 more serving than the choco flavor..because of cocoa density. I heard good things of their Choco Mint flavor..but i avoid it because of ingredient salt. Cookies and Cream has dextrose in it..but i hear people say its crappy taste and they threw it out even with the free sample. I suggest Vanilla Ice Cream as first choice if buying optimum...followed by choco..and maybe strawberry (never tried). You can't go wrong...simple ingredient...good price...good amino...
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Post by lionel on Aug 31, 2004 0:54:37 GMT -5
Straw ON 100% whey sucks!! lol. Just my opinios though. Other than its pretty pink color, there's nothing too fabulous bout it IMO.
Yeah, agree on truprotein! Good value for money.
Think why nitrotech jacked up your friend, or so he thinks, is maybe cos of the 'secret' creatine muscle tech added in and did not declare in their ingredient list.. manufacturers these day...
I'm with chris too.. better get something more affordable than nitrotech and is similar in the nutritional profile. Many others out there. Nitrotech is nothing special
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Post by Maximum6 on Aug 31, 2004 17:58:50 GMT -5
thanks for the warning..hehe...
did you try choco mint? I keep hearing its the best FLAVOR...but i still think the best is Vanilla...just because it has a little bit less fat, carbs...same amount of cals...16 servings..instead of 15 like the chocolate...and it says 81% unaltered protein instead of 78% like choco.
Of course this only goes for Strawberry (which you said is nasty ;D, and vanilla).
But i'm just like that...i like everything to be as best as it can be...even if it is just by 1%..heheh ;D
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Post by Maximum6 on Aug 31, 2004 18:07:43 GMT -5
wow..just checked out that true protein site...they have Banana Flavor!!!! But too bad i don't know what good protein powder should contain. I mean it would be great if i know how to customize my protein...but the first think i'll probably do is add the good vitamins and minerals...that they can add...then add in Dex. and maltodex...banana flavor .... what do you guys think? I'm considering customizing my protein..but what does Protein shake need for protein to make it good?
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Post by diecast747 on Aug 31, 2004 19:13:21 GMT -5
Straw ON 100% whey sucks!! lol. Just my opinios though. Other than its pretty pink color, there's nothing too fabulous bout it IMO. Yeah, agree on truprotein! Good value for money. Think why nitrotech jacked up your friend, or so he thinks, is maybe cos of the 'secret' creatine muscle tech added in and did not declare in their ingredient list.. manufacturers these day... I'm with chris too.. better get something more affordable than nitrotech and is similar in the nutritional profile. Many others out there. Nitrotech is nothing special I have it and after im finished with it im NOT going back to strawberry from them
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Post by lionel on Aug 31, 2004 19:26:37 GMT -5
diecast: you got the straw? Man! The first one was only ok.. after that, it was a chore!
max:haven't tried any other flavors cept choce.. don't wanna take risks and end up with something i don't like for 77-80 other servings! Will take a shot at vanilla when i have the chance. About truprotein, i'm recommend you avoid the adding the multivits. You're gonna get a lot of them in your multi vits tablets(if you take em) and malto and dex, what i do is purchase and add them seperately so i know i can still tqake the protein powder even though its no pwo. If you've got any questions bout trueprotein, please feel free to ask!
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Post by Maximum6 on Aug 31, 2004 19:53:20 GMT -5
don't be afraid to try vanilla. When i first bought vanilla....i opened it..and thought chocolate smelled WAYYY better than Vanilla. But when you drink it its not bad....One time ..i had 1 scoop left of vanilla...and a new opened choco. I mixed 1 scoop of vanilla ice cream and double rice choco...and it became a Rocky Road kind of flavor. Maybe i should try it again but this time add in Hazelnut or Almond Flavor Syrup...heheh ;D
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Post by Troyster on Sept 1, 2004 12:23:45 GMT -5
Yup, Chris is right on the money!! Protein powder is not magic (no matter how good the ads are and no matter how much money they spend on the ads -- thus the extra cost). I personally know a guy who's sponsored by Muscle Tech. He bulks (and yes he uses the free products they give him, OFF-SEASON) and then when he diets for a show they photograph him "before" and "after". He uses the same technique I do diet (we were trained by the same person). I know for a FACT that he doesn't touch the product while on-diet. They are forbidden on our diet. Not on some, but on ours they are not used (and we've discussed this many times). He's a phenomenal athlete!! As I understand it, there are only a good four or five companies that make the actual whey powder (at the base level)... the rest is just "stuff" added by the various companies so they can call it "unique". I always say there's no magic in supplements. Especially protein powder. It's food... nothing more. Same with vitamins... they come from food... eat some frickin' food people <Dr. Evil voice>. Seriously, powders are nothing more than a convenient meal... arguing about one being better than the other is like arguing that (OK these are Canadian brands) Maple Leaf chicken is better than Agri-Farm chicken. It's chicken and the meat has a protein value (as does the whey at its base level -- which really just came from milk). Then again, as I understand it, my creatine is %4085 better than other creatines ;D ;D ;D T
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Post by Tim Wescott on Sept 1, 2004 13:14:30 GMT -5
My sentiments exactly Troy,I`m not big on supplements at all, and I take a minimum amount ,and eat for the rest of my needs.
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Post by diecast747 on Sept 1, 2004 20:00:50 GMT -5
thanks t and t and everyone!
it was just a question that was buggin' me
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Post by Maximum6 on Sept 1, 2004 20:11:22 GMT -5
about what troy said being a convenient meal...Even at school...where it is inconvenient to bring food and eat inbetween classes...I don't use Protein Shake besides PWO. My Mrps are Tuna Pouches, Tuna in cans, Salmon in Cans, Cooked Chicken breast in a sandwich bag is my PROTEIN BAR right there ;D, not to mention Troy's Pancake recipe...cook it up one day...cut it up..put it in a baggy and throw it in the frige or freezer. Haven't tried freezer yet..but i heard it taste like one of those NEW FROZEN POPTARTS...(if you use syrup that is).
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Post by Troyster on Sept 2, 2004 17:37:40 GMT -5
thanks t and t and everyone! it was just a question that was buggin' me Hey no worries!! We all went through that. We're just trying to save your pocketbook bro! I learned the hard way... bought all the supplements I could find and then some!! I wish I'd had somebody to tell me back then I would have saved a TON of money, LOL!! Oh well, all part of the game eh? T
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Post by ChrisC on Sept 3, 2004 9:56:46 GMT -5
I just wanted to echo what Troy said. I've wasted plenty of money on pointless supplements, and it's good to be able to help someone else avoid getting ripped off like many of us had.
Chris Never fell for Bill Phillips "...it feels like deca"
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Post by Maximum6 on Sept 3, 2004 18:15:36 GMT -5
I was bored yesterday at school and i was reading my chemistry book. I read stuff about Glucose and Carbs and such...then there was a page about AMINO ACID supplements...and even the book said you're wasting your money on supplements if you buy AMINOs...cause you can get it from REAL FOOD!! ;D
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Post by Troyster on Sept 8, 2004 13:36:57 GMT -5
That's very true. They're talking about the "essential" amino acids and they are the components of proteins.
However there are also what's known as "non-essential" amino acids and they're a little different. That's things like argenine, tyrosine, tryptophan, gabba, etc.
These have a very unique effect. For example, tryptophan (AA name is 5-htp) is known to cause drosiness. Argenine is said to be a factor in the natural release of growth hormone. Gabba can help you sleep but can cause weird dreams.
These particular aminos are classified as quasi-drugs. In fact, those particular ones are illegal in Canada if sold separately (not in the US). You can buy aminos like those here in Canada only if they are sold in combination with things like protein powders, etc. and there is a restriction on the volume permitted.
There are quite a few other amino's that are used to produce a drug-like effect.
So, just pointing out the difference between what someone calls an amino-acid and meaning "protein" and what someone calls amino-acids and meaning drug or supplement.
Hope this makes sense.
Troy
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