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Nov 15, 2004 17:04:26 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 15, 2004 17:04:26 GMT -5
i know that insulin spikes with carbs but i've heard that its effective for building muscle. so if i took animal nitro with some carbs for a insulin spike post and pre workout, i could still cut and put on muscle at the same time or not? just a thought
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Nov 15, 2004 17:16:03 GMT -5
Post by Merlin on Nov 15, 2004 17:16:03 GMT -5
Just ingest 5iu of insulin every workout.
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Nov 15, 2004 17:18:11 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 15, 2004 17:18:11 GMT -5
haha, that was hilarious, thanx for the amazing advice, merlin
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insulin
Nov 15, 2004 18:56:55 GMT -5
Post by Merlin on Nov 15, 2004 18:56:55 GMT -5
I do what I can.
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Nov 15, 2004 19:11:08 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 15, 2004 19:11:08 GMT -5
anyone have a um... response that doesn't include shooting uP?
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Nov 15, 2004 19:15:04 GMT -5
Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 15, 2004 19:15:04 GMT -5
Never heard of animal nitro,but if you are trying to add size while staying lean,it can be done of course,but is a slow process.
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Nov 15, 2004 19:21:17 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 15, 2004 19:21:17 GMT -5
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Nov 15, 2004 19:49:05 GMT -5
Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 15, 2004 19:49:05 GMT -5
I`m not much on supplements as most are merely hype IMO.
To get leaaner,good bodybuilding clean diet,water,hard training,cardio,and consistancy above all else.
I could go into the specifics of each item, but it could take volumes.
We`ve all seen the pics of the fat 200 pound man,who then still weighs the same 200 pounds, but is muscular afterwards.
He merely changed his body composition, and the above points will do just that, if applied intelligently, and faithfully.
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insulin
Nov 15, 2004 21:30:49 GMT -5
Post by youngblood on Nov 15, 2004 21:30:49 GMT -5
I'm an advocate of a different type of diet, a low carb diet, but to me, there is no such thing as a "clean" or "cleaner" diet. I'm so active at my job, that I'm able to eat an average of 5k calories a day and still not put on weight. If anything, I lose weight. I can eat pretty much anything I want, but still prefer to keep a lower carb based diet. When I say lower carb, I mean 120g/day tops. Preferably closer to 80g/day. Insulin, it's a powerful storage tool. But most don't realize that insulins first job is not to store things, it's to make fat!!! That's right, make fat THEN store nutrients/carbs/etc.......... So, I try to keep carbs under control (not doing well these last few weeks). And it shows in my leaness. I've maintained a relatively low BF % (around 7.5-8%) for the last year and a half. But my lifts all continue to grow stronger. Point of my post, you don't need insulin to get bigger/stronger. If you want to be Ronnie Coleman, that's another issue. However, you said you didn't want to shoot up, so I think that answered the Ronnie issue.
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Nov 15, 2004 22:08:49 GMT -5
Post by str8flexed on Nov 15, 2004 22:08:49 GMT -5
that animal pak is just an essential amino acid blend... now don't get me wrong; EAA's are really really really good. But you can get them much cheaper in powder form, ordering them from places like kilosports.
oh and insulin is only directly anabolic in younger people, it loses it's effeciency as you age and may actually be somewhat catabolic to the elderly. -Layne
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Nov 15, 2004 22:18:58 GMT -5
Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 15, 2004 22:18:58 GMT -5
Interesting info as usual Layne!!
What`s your opinion of ALA ...I`ve never taken it but know a few guy`s who swear by it ?
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Nov 15, 2004 22:39:19 GMT -5
Post by str8flexed on Nov 15, 2004 22:39:19 GMT -5
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Nov 15, 2004 22:44:04 GMT -5
Post by Tim Wescott on Nov 15, 2004 22:44:04 GMT -5
Wow,that`s a lot to read being this late,but I`ll definately check it out in the AM..thanks bro.
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Nov 15, 2004 22:55:21 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 15, 2004 22:55:21 GMT -5
that animal pak is just an essential amino acid blend... now don't get me wrong; EAA's are really really really good. But you can get them much cheaper in powder form, ordering them from places like kilosports. oh and insulin is only directly anabolic in younger people, it loses it's effeciency as you age and may actually be somewhat catabolic to the elderly. -Layne ok, thanx for the great info, but that provoked more questions, i'm 17, can i lose fat and build muscle if i properly utilize aminos?
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Nov 16, 2004 0:31:37 GMT -5
Post by str8flexed on Nov 16, 2004 0:31:37 GMT -5
ok, thanx for the great info, but that provoked more questions, i'm 17, can i lose fat and build muscle if i properly utilize aminos? of course... can you be more specific?
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Nov 16, 2004 10:42:10 GMT -5
Post by Troyster on Nov 16, 2004 10:42:10 GMT -5
i know that insulin spikes with carbs but i've heard that its effective for building muscle. so if i took animal nitro with some carbs for a insulin spike post and pre workout, i could still cut and put on muscle at the same time or not? just a thought Let me answer this from a different approach. I know a few different guys who run insulin (very scary stuff, in this approach, as it can EASILY kill a person -- litterally). My point here is that compared to the volume these guys run and the minute effects they get... you're producing a drop in the bucket (so-to-speak) with your insulin spikes using sugars... You are, however, MAXIMIZING the fat storage process as discussed by YoungBlood. Layne, I agree with you on the effect of insulin and age, however I feel that applies specifically to the "average" human (due to insulin resistance due to the "average" diet) and not an athletic person with a clean diet (devoid of, or low in, processed sugar), and is thus more an effect of the result of diet. The typical NA diet is SO laden with sugars it produces a perverted insulin/sugar relgulation system over time, IMHO. T
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Nov 16, 2004 15:52:50 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 16, 2004 15:52:50 GMT -5
i believe my diet leaves me as a very insulin sensitive becuz of its extreme lowness in simple carbs.
and i can't go into specifics i guess, i'm just looking to keep with my fat loss, i would like to utilize aminos to pack on muscle at the same time. i don't have any idea of how to do it now but if anyone has tooled around with the concept i would love to check it out
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Nov 16, 2004 18:43:33 GMT -5
Post by str8flexed on Nov 16, 2004 18:43:33 GMT -5
Let me answer this from a different approach. I know a few different guys who run insulin (very scary stuff, in this approach, as it can EASILY kill a person -- litterally). My point here is that compared to the volume these guys run and the minute effects they get... you're producing a drop in the bucket (so-to-speak) with your insulin spikes using sugars... You are, however, MAXIMIZING the fat storage process as discussed by YoungBlood. Layne, I agree with you on the effect of insulin and age, however I feel that applies specifically to the "average" human (due to insulin resistance due to the "average" diet) and not an athletic person with a clean diet (devoid of, or low in, processed sugar), and is thus more an effect of the result of diet. The typical NA diet is SO laden with sugars it produces a perverted insulin/sugar relgulation system over time, IMHO. T probably quite true, however I should have made my point more clear. INsulin has only been shown to be anabolic in the young. In mature individuals it takes supraphysiological doses of insulin to increase protein synthesis. In physiological doses it has no affect by itself on protein synthesis... rather it acts in a permissive role in the presence of amino acids. -Layne
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Nov 16, 2004 18:47:47 GMT -5
Post by gnomesoldier on Nov 16, 2004 18:47:47 GMT -5
wait so if i consumed aminos in between meals and twice thru the night could i continue to lose fat and build some muscle at the same time?
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