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Post by vindog on Aug 9, 2006 7:30:17 GMT -5
What is Your Opinion on This?
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Post by Maximum6 on Aug 9, 2006 7:33:07 GMT -5
i keep hearing things about estrogen and what not for both milk and soy.
If the milk based protein is derived from milk that has not been pumped with estrogen..i would go with that.
then again...soy protein is not too bad.
don't shy away until you try it.
to be safe..BEEF or EGG PROTEIN!!! hahhahahahah ;D
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Post by sicario on Aug 9, 2006 8:09:21 GMT -5
I have read WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many studies on Soy proteiin wreaking havoc on estrogen levels in men to use it myself. It's a pity, because over here in Spain it's the cheapest protein around, but estrogen definatly does NOT build muscle, LOL, Vin.
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Post by mrssully on Aug 9, 2006 9:19:50 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on pea protein? Claims are that it's highly digestible, contain no saturated fat or cholesteral.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Aug 9, 2006 10:28:44 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on pea protein? Claims are that it's highly digestible, contain no saturated fat or cholesteral. Soy is not a good choice for men due to the estrogen issues that Sicario brought up.....plus it is an incomplete vegetable protein source.....same thing for pea protein or any vegetable source of protein.............all are incomplete and only become complete after combining with another source of protein.usually animal based. Why not skip the soy entirely and just go for the complete animal sources of protein like whey,milk & egg,beef,chicken,fish,etc. etc. ?? The debate for and against soy has been going on for decades. If you do a search of the nutrition board,there is lots of useful info regarding this topic. |
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Post by mrssully on Aug 9, 2006 10:44:20 GMT -5
Thanks Tim!
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Post by RUBICON19 on Aug 9, 2006 12:43:31 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on pea protein? Claims are that it's highly digestible, contain no saturated fat or cholesteral. Soy is not a good choice for men due to the estrogen issues that Sicario brought up.....plus it is an incomplete vegetable protein source.....same thing for pea protein or any vegetable source of protein.............all are incomplete and only become complete after combining with another source of protein.usually animal based. Why not skip the soy entirely and just go for the complete animal sources of protein like whey,milk & egg,beef,chicken,fish,etc. etc. ?? The debate for and against soy has been going on for decades. If you do a search of the nutrition board,there is lots of useful info regarding this topic. Once again. "What he said" |
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Post by macattack on Aug 9, 2006 23:59:04 GMT -5
I'm TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY lactose intolerant so no milk whatsoever I drink soy not noticed and estrogen levels elevated since I started drinking it #smileyspittngwater0lj#
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Post by sicario on Aug 10, 2006 2:03:34 GMT -5
I'm TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY lactose intolerant so no milk whatsoever I drink soy not noticed and estrogen levels elevated since I started drinking it #smileyspittngwater0lj# LOL, that's cuz all those double cheeseburgers that you are downing are LOADED with enough test. to nullify any estrogen raising effect of the soy protein Paisa, LOL, you still "da man" Paisa, Vin.  |
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Post by macattack on Aug 10, 2006 11:25:14 GMT -5
I'm TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY lactose intolerant so no milk whatsoever I drink soy not noticed and estrogen levels elevated since I started drinking it #smileyspittngwater0lj# LOL, that's cuz all those double cheeseburgers that you are downing are LOADED with enough test. to nullify any estrogen raising effect of the soy protein Paisa, LOL, you still "da man" Paisa, Vin. #bbravosmiley8hh# #smileypancake8hg# I actually do feel a little bloated today and I drank 1/2 gallon yesterday of lite soy milk Hmmmmmmm might be something there |
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Post by beckie on Aug 10, 2006 19:26:07 GMT -5
I am also mildly lactose intolerant so stick to whey isolate and sometimes one with soy added...I LOVE my soy hot chocolates!  |
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Post by macattack on Aug 11, 2006 18:21:11 GMT -5
Whey isolates all I can take .
Soy hot chocolate Hmmmmm I have some nice mexican chocolate to melt down looks like #arockon6ha#
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Post by sicario on Aug 12, 2006 6:40:39 GMT -5
Whey isolates all I can take . Soy hot chocolate Hmmmmm I have some nice mexican chocolate to melt down looks like #arockon6ha# LOL, I had my fingers crossed that you wouldn't see that Soy hot chocolate post Paisa, LOL, Vin. |
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