jr
Novice Bodybuilder
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Post by jr on Sept 9, 2006 6:23:12 GMT -5
I'm currently adding creatine and glutamine to a sensible bulking diet. I've been considering:
BCAAs HMB L-Carnitine (pre-cardio - semi-HIIT , 4 days/week)
Any comments on these or other effective supps for a natty? If you've found something you like, how/when do you take it?
I currently lift to repeated failure in the 6-8 range on a 4 day split, so systemic recovery/avoiding overtraining is my main goal.
Thanks for any advice.
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Post by Hoopie on Sept 9, 2006 8:09:37 GMT -5
I'm currently adding creatine and glutamine to a sensible bulking diet. I've been considering: BCAAs HMB L-Carnitine (pre-cardio - semi-HIIT , 4 days/week) Any comments on these or other effective supps for a natty? If you've found something you like, how/when do you take it? I currently lift to repeated failure in the 6-8 range on a 4 day split, so systemic recovery/avoiding overtraining is my main goal. Thanks for any advice. Check out Cell Swell Matrix at Trueprotein.com. Great supp, has bcaa's,cee,l-gluteamine and glutamine peptides. Take it half-45 minutes before w/o and immediately after followed by your post w/o protein and carbs 30 mnutes later.
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Post by mrky03 on Sept 9, 2006 8:55:18 GMT -5
Thats just what I was going to recommend! Great minds think alike, right hoopie? jr. I recommend the watermelon flavor, just got it in yesterday. Its much improved over the other two flavors.
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Post by beckie on Sept 9, 2006 16:38:02 GMT -5
Just my opinion,but you shouldn't need the carnitine on a bulking diet-its meant more for cutting. HMB also works better in a caloric deficit(cutting) type diet.
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jr
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Post by jr on Sept 10, 2006 2:19:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the info guys. Looks like the right stuff at the right price. Cheers!
Beckie, I'd still like to gain a couple of quality pounds over the next 6-8 weeks, but I'm trying to keep the blubber to a minimum. I figured the carnitine might lend a hand in conjunction with the HIIT swimming (200 meter intervals - I get some funny looks at the Y!). Do you feel the carnitine would be better left alone until I'm in a true cutting phase? If I won't reap any benefit until I'm in calorie debt, I'll save my hard earned! Same for the HMB?
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Post by beckie on Sept 10, 2006 16:53:34 GMT -5
yes,I think they are both designed more for cutting cycles. Adding mass will help you with your fat loss anyway because the more muscle you have the more fat you will burn. If you want something before you do cardio,just try a shot of coffee!
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Post by sicario on Sept 10, 2006 17:05:26 GMT -5
I second everything Beckie said (as usual, LOL), but I noticethat you don't mention protein powder on your supp. list. I consider a good protein powder to the THE most important supp to take. The other stuff like creatine and glutamine are great if you have money left over, but I think that you should consider buying a good protein powder to start off with, especially if you are trying to bulk up, Vin.
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Post by Hoopie on Sept 10, 2006 20:45:56 GMT -5
Thats just what I was going to recommend! Great minds think alike, right hoopie? jr. I recommend the watermelon flavor, just got it in yesterday. Its much improved over the other two flavors. Got that right buddy!! The watermellon flavor rocks!
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jr
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Post by jr on Sept 10, 2006 22:57:37 GMT -5
Yep, I've got a protein supp - just forgot to mention it! I've been consuming about 200g/day between diet and supp, but I may cut it back to about 150 and see how I feel (currently weigh about 180). Espresso- yeah baby yeah! Great before cardio! Funny thing though, caffine before lifting does bad things for me. It's like I really want to get the weight up - the mind is buzzing - but the body just won't perform. Maybe it's the dehydrating effect? Dunno... Thanks for the heads up on the proper time to use the carnitine. I won't waste my $ on it while still feeding. Watermellon it shall be, gents...!
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Post by hossjob on Sept 26, 2006 19:46:39 GMT -5
Cell Swell Matrix 3 times per day NO Shotgun 30-60 minutes pre workout Regeneration X post workout
That's the best 3 supps you can get on the market at this point.
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