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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 20, 2007 14:30:06 GMT -5
I may eat my words on this, but I think I am DONE with supp's. I think we all spend well earned money on crap! Just venting. Sick of it. Too many other things to spend $$$$ on!
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Post by Grant on Mar 20, 2007 14:56:35 GMT -5
The supp industry does seem like a scam at times and maybe it is. New products coming out all the time.
My supps is basically protein powder and vitmamins. Have been trying the No shotgun / No explode avenue.
My supp intake may seem relively small but I do not compete.
It seems like someone can spend $200-$300 mnimum a month easily. If I were making money on bodybuilding/fitness/etc I would spend that and more but not sure I would as an ametuer with no goals of going pro.
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Post by Intensity on Mar 20, 2007 15:00:44 GMT -5
TOTALLY AGREE GUYS! Invest your money on food and protein powder rather than supplements!
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Post by Grant on Mar 20, 2007 15:05:01 GMT -5
One thing I like a bout protein powder is that I can basically comsume it in about 1 minute. seems much more convienant then carrying around real foor.
BTW - I do agree about food over supps. supps just sometimes fit the bill.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 20, 2007 20:07:35 GMT -5
Not even pro powder Mo
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Post by youngblood on Mar 20, 2007 21:41:50 GMT -5
I can't live without Protein powder, too easy and convenient. With that being said, there is a part of Arnold's Encyclopedia that stuck in my mind. To paraphrase: "Most bodybuilders will not ever even see a $10 profit from their BBing efforts. So, before you buy supplements and spend your hard earned money, keep this in mind." I've always remembered that. I still think solid food is the way to go, but a protein powder is good to use, and some BCAA's, which I tend to lump in with protein powders given it is an amino acid and all. Other than that, I do not see a true need to buy glutamine, NoS, Creakic, Leukic or whatever crap there is out there right now. When cutting up, some ephedrine and caffeine does me fine in addition to protein powders, but aside from that, all things are useless to me.
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Post by BigMikeReed on Mar 20, 2007 22:50:38 GMT -5
I agree with Rubicon somewhat AND Mo. I have tried MANY different supps throughout the years... and guess what? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I have a huge secret to share with you guys that you will thank me for............ Supplements don't work without working out AND most supps are worthless. Creatine- water in my muscles.. so what. Glutamine- have seen no diff. The only thing that has ever helped me is ephedrine stuff to give me a kick of energy for my workout.. that's it. Oh.. and here comes the MO thing I agree with--- I HAVE To have protien powder and I attribute alot of my growth to having it in additon to great workouts and lots of other food. Mike
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 21, 2007 5:30:14 GMT -5
Okay. So lets say you live somewhere the pro powder is not available or that you cant afford it on your best week. Then what? Do you still "NEED" it. Will you become less of a bodybuilder? or will you overcome it and just eat that much better.
The hardest part is letting go of the shotgun!!!! Uhhhggggg!
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Post by BigMikeReed on Mar 21, 2007 7:26:07 GMT -5
Okay. So lets say you live somewhere the pro powder is not available or that you cant afford it on your best week. Then what? Do you still "NEED" it. Will you become less of a bodybuilder? or will you overcome it and just eat that much better. The hardest part is letting go of the shotgun!!!! Uhhhggggg! As long as I have chickens to lay me LOTS of eggs and I have the time to cook them then I suppose I could overcome it to a degree. Would I become less of a bodybuilder? well depending upon what that means no.... but would my physique suffer?..... yes. Ok I understand your point that we may not HAVE To have pro powder but much of it I find easier to digest than "regular" food and withough the convenience of it I would never be able to get in the protien I need each day.
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Post by gti steve on Mar 21, 2007 8:34:58 GMT -5
I've stopped taking supps myself. I find them to be a huge waste of money. Real food I find is a better choice. For post-workout I have been doing low-fat chocolate milk and its so good LOL.
I'd rather put my money to real, whole foods.
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Post by OptimumJoe on Mar 21, 2007 8:59:45 GMT -5
I've been struggling with this as well. Honestly...what products really make a difference out there. I like Protein powders like others have said for the convenience of it all, but the other stuff I find has more of a placebo affect then physiologic affect. Most products work for a week or two then have nothing in return.
When competing I only use EFA's, Caffeine, Protein, Green Tea, and sometimes glutamine. If the off-season I only use powders, waxy maize, and some BCAA's. (of course Multi's)
GNC is full of BS products
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Post by Karrie on Mar 21, 2007 9:39:49 GMT -5
I know for myself, I need my protein powder for one basic reason. Since I have two little kids, there are MULTIPLE times I simply do not have the time to make my chicken, eggs etc so a protein shake to get in my protein is a life saver for me.
I do agree that most of the supplement companies are expensive and when they come out with these "studies" I wonder how exactly they can tell if their product actually works or if coincidental and the individual(s) is/are training harder and/or made changes in their training program. Just my thoughts. ;D
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Post by Sal Paradise on Mar 21, 2007 11:06:42 GMT -5
I tend to agree with most of the comments made. I do use protein powder - though I can't remember the last time I used creatine, glutamine or any other OTC supps for that matter.. Oh wait I did take some MuscleTech PumpTech a couple of nights ago because I found it in a bag from my last show. Freebies - no reason not to take them!
I will say as the diet gets tighter and tighter I will be using some ECA of some sort.
Sal
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Post by masterschamp on Mar 21, 2007 11:36:19 GMT -5
Never relied on supps...including protein powders. Would rather spend my money on the wife and kids!
WHOLE FOOD!!!!!
Keith
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Post by EBA84 on Mar 21, 2007 12:39:08 GMT -5
The only supplements I think are worth a sh*t are protein powder and creatine. Wouldn't waste my money on anything else.
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Post by Tim Wescott on Mar 21, 2007 13:22:24 GMT -5
All I`ve been doing for months now is Whey Powder and Creatine Monohydrate.
When I got past the "Be A Weider Wildcat" stage decades ago,I realized that the majority of the supps out there are mostly hype. Vit. C,B-Complex,E,and a few others are OK in my book but I`m doing fine on the whey /creatine/food thing.
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Post by mrbeefy on Mar 21, 2007 14:13:14 GMT -5
Well....as always...TIMMY is right on here!
I could have paid off a lot of bills if I had deferred what I spent on supps to the bills instead!
Every "blue moon" I tripped along something that helped for awhile, or hindered me....either way...wasted time and money.
Can always make more money...but time wasted? hmmmmmm
Food.....clean....and lots of it!
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Post by RUBICON19 on Mar 21, 2007 15:00:24 GMT -5
I actually believe my physique will improve without them.
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Post by tiffany on Mar 21, 2007 15:25:09 GMT -5
I think there is no right or wrong here, everyone has their own life conditions and circumstances and everyone needs to choose what works best for them.
I read several magazines and I just skip right over all the supplement adds. I am not saying I don't take any, I do, but unless I win the lottery and plan on becoming the next Mis O, I stay away from all the hype products. I take several vitamins and minerals, glutamine and at least 2 of my 6 daily meals are protein shakes. Because of my health, living with fybromialga for the past 10 years+, and my resent back surgery I need to make sure my body gets what it needs to heal. I know what I take works. As far as cost, we shop around and order most of our stuff in bulk or on sale over the internet. I roughly spend $5 in total, including protein powder, a day, I would spend more than that preparing 2 meals.
I am also a single mom so I don't have a partner to take turns in the kitchen while the other one is helping the kids with their homework or taking them to their football practice or just having fun shooting hoops in the driveway (not to mention doing the laundry, cleaning the house, cutting the lawn, or fixing the leaking faucet etc, etc.) so if I can cut back on kitchen time I have no problem downing a shake ;D
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Post by Grant on Mar 21, 2007 16:31:32 GMT -5
Okay. So lets say you live somewhere the pro powder is not available or that you cant afford it on your best week. Then what? Do you still "NEED" it. Will you become less of a bodybuilder? or will you overcome it and just eat that much better. The hardest part is letting go of the shotgun!!!! Uhhhggggg! Rubicon, I can see dropping a supp that you get little or no value from but you seem to like the No Shotgun. any reason why dropping that? I like the powder because it's a way of keeping my protein intake up while not consuming a lot of carbs. I use to eat energy/protein bars but you guys gave some advice that I should not. seems to be working in that I'm dropping some lbs. Need to keep studying.
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