eltigre
Novice Bodybuilder
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Post by eltigre on Apr 27, 2007 10:20:32 GMT -5
Steve Michalik says that the body cannot efficiently digest meats and heavy carbs, like breads and pastas. He also claims that fruits are to be eaten alone.
Gironda also suggested the same.
I have personally experienced better digestion and eliminated any bloating altogether by have separate carb meals and protein meals, except for foods that combine them naturally like beans, peanuts, etc.
Is there anyone who does not agree with this practice and if not, then why?
I am very interested in hearing your input.
Regards,
John
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Post by RUBICON19 on Apr 27, 2007 11:32:40 GMT -5
Although I do eat carbs and protein together in the off season, I prefer protein with fat during contest prep.
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Post by masterschamp on Apr 27, 2007 11:45:58 GMT -5
Much like Randy......off season, I eat just about anything, in any combination!! Pre-contest, I really don't eat many carbs at all, but my protein and fats are always combined.
Keith
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Post by Tim Wescott on Apr 27, 2007 12:12:45 GMT -5
I`ve read that from Vince Gironda and today Dante` who developed the Doggcrap training system advocates the same thing.......says to eat protein first,then carbs during a meal. Personally,I just eat.....I think the body can deal with it,so far no problem,but who knows? I thought of doing it many times but was too damn hungry to wait for my carbs last. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Lots of great physiques out there who do not do this,but if they did,who knows,they could look even better?
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Post by Intensity on Apr 27, 2007 14:01:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty much like Tim… I just eat what I need to eat and I dont care about the rest!
Pre-contest, I make sure to keep my fat intake very low and I eat my carbs from complex carbs sources such as Oatmeal, Brown rice, Red potatoes, oat cereals, etc. (... and for sure, eat it with some proteins)
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Post by EBA84 on Apr 27, 2007 18:19:39 GMT -5
I don't think the order you eat them in makes one bit of difference. It all ends up the in same place anyways.
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Post by youngblood on Apr 27, 2007 22:32:37 GMT -5
I think this myth has been debunked elsewhere. You can eat whatever you want, whenever you would like. The absorption rate is the same. The effect of insulin/carbs while eating fats might be different, but absorption rates and assimilation are not effected any differently.
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Post by RUBICON19 on Apr 28, 2007 0:18:26 GMT -5
My body does NOT digest pro + carbs properly unless its after a depletion phase. Even then I do better with fat thrown in the mix
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Post by beckie on Apr 28, 2007 0:22:29 GMT -5
I'm with Eric on this one-I don't think it matters one bit. The only time I omit fat is PWO where I just have carbs and protein.
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Post by EBA84 on Apr 28, 2007 15:29:26 GMT -5
I'm with Eric on this one-I don't think it matters one bit. The only time I omit fat is PWO where I just have carbs and protein. Good point. Fat post workout isn't needed. Carbs and protein are needed. (You meant post-workout, correct?)
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Post by mrky03 on Apr 28, 2007 16:12:17 GMT -5
I've never had any problems digesting carbs, fat and protein within the same meal. I do however separate them during contest prep.
For now though give me a big steak and a baked potato! ;D
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Post by beckie on Apr 28, 2007 17:11:26 GMT -5
I'm with Eric on this one-I don't think it matters one bit. The only time I omit fat is PWO where I just have carbs and protein. Good point. Fat post workout isn't needed. Carbs and protein are needed. (You meant post-workout, correct?) Correct! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by sicario on Apr 29, 2007 16:48:51 GMT -5
The big problem with not taking them in the same meal is first, you get no complete protein in the all carb meal (protein is the only thing that builds new muscle), and secondly, it's hard enough to get in six to eight bodybuilding meals a day. If you had some "carb only" meals, you'd have to add even more meals to make sure you get in your daily protein intake number. I go with everyone else on the board, it really doesn't matter, and it would probably even be much more trouble than it's worth, Vin.
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Post by Intensity on Apr 30, 2007 13:34:59 GMT -5
The big problem with not taking them in the same meal is first, you get no complete protein in the all carb meal (protein is the only thing that builds new muscle), and secondly, it's hard enough to get in six to eight bodybuilding meals a day. If you had some "carb only" meals, you'd have to add even more meals to make sure you get in your daily protein intake number. I go with everyone else on the board, it really doesn't matter, and it would probably even be much more trouble than it's worth, Vin. Good answer Vin! By the way, it's great to see you back!
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Post by sicario on May 5, 2007 18:45:38 GMT -5
Thanks Big Mo, it's great to be back, lol, Vin.
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