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Post by ChrisC on Aug 9, 2004 17:15:56 GMT -5
Race for the first 1000lb bench makes mainstream news outlet... Microsoft's Slate Magazine. Interesting Read. slate.msn.com/id/2104915/ |
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Post by whssenior on Aug 14, 2004 14:25:46 GMT -5
let me tell ya something, nobody is ever going to accomplish a 1000 lb. bench.
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Post by ChrisC on Aug 14, 2004 14:39:18 GMT -5
1000lb raw might never happen.
1000lb with shirt will happen.
Mendelson missed 1000 just last week. Rychlak is close.
Admittedly there is the shirt issue, but that's a whole other story...
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Post by J65 on Aug 14, 2004 14:54:50 GMT -5
1000lb raw might never happen. 1000lb with shirt will happen. Mendelson missed 1000 just last week. Rychlak is close. Admittedly there is the shirt issue, but that's a whole other story... As a rank amateur, amazing to me that a shirt can make such a difference. But seeing the proliferation of body suits in track and swimming competitions, it seems that what one wears can improve performance. |
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Post by ChrisC on Aug 14, 2004 15:01:32 GMT -5
IRC the raw record has improved something like 45lbs in 25 years (approx).
Yet the record (with shirt) is approaching 1000 and has increased by enormous amounts in the last couple of years.
If you have never seen one of these 900+ benches, it doesn't look much like the bench press you will see in your gym.
In contrast the deadlift record really hasn't increased much in 20 years (of course it's much harder to design assistance equipment for a deadlift...)
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Post by J65 on Aug 14, 2004 15:37:08 GMT -5
IRC the raw record has improved something like 45lbs in 25 years (approx). Yet the record (with shirt) is approaching 1000 and has increased by enormous amounts in the last couple of years. If you have never seen one of these 900+ benches, it doesn't look much like the bench press you will see in your gym. In contrast the deadlift record really hasn't increased much in 20 years (of course it's much harder to design assistance equipment for a deadlift...) I believe I have seen one of the "shirt" events on TV. The bench presser doesn't actually hit the chest, IIRC. |
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Post by Joe_Roark on Aug 15, 2004 20:40:58 GMT -5
Different figures are bandied for how much a bench shirt really helps over the raw bench for the same man. In some cases 200 lbs more is possible- the lifter knows this, the fans accept it, the judges approve it.
But the shirt has a monopoly. No other known way of adding weight to the bench is allowed: not spotters 'helping' on the ascent (even if they help less than 200 lbs' worth- if that were measureable; not a pulley mechanism which could be loaded to exactly 200 lbs. Only the shirt is approved for making a higher lift than is possible without the shirt. ;D
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Post by Tim Wescott on Aug 16, 2004 14:15:41 GMT -5
In my opinion shirts and squat suits have ruined the sport of powerlifting. You may as well get help from a crane or just have a huge spring attatched to your ass!  If you look at the records only the deadlift has not gone up considerably because there is no suit or gimmick to aid the lifter in the performance of the lift. It`s certainly not the same sport I competed in. |
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Post by ChrisC on Aug 16, 2004 15:43:55 GMT -5
Very true.
If someone wants to use a shirt, fine. I hate it when lifters claim the shirt is only for 'protection' and doesn't add much to the bench.
Chris
(off to home depot to buy some ass-springs)
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Post by Tim Wescott on Aug 16, 2004 16:29:50 GMT -5
Chris, Pick me up a pair while you`re there,will ya` ? ;D
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