opinions please

[Ken B.]

I know that both younger and older BB come to Tim's great board. For those that don't know him the third BB over from the left is a great BB from the 60's! Thats right 40 years ago! His name is Freddy Ortiz. I thought it was interesting to see how he stacks up against newer BB including the best of todays short men!

What do you guys think?

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[GerryT]

Think Freddy would be competitive today. Always thought he had development ahead of his time.

He could do a vacuum pose which many guys today cannot possibly hit. That always looks good in a posedown.

[Tim Wescott]

Although Freddy`s not as ripped as today`s competitors, I would say not too many guy`s today have his mass,especially since he is a short guy.You`re right Gerry, with todays distended guts on some of the men, Freddy would surely blow them away with a vacuum shot.I don`t think having ripped glutes should be a criteria for a great physique anyway.When did the glutes become so important as a bodypart, and why? Look at the humongous arms of Freddy Ortiz in these pics.
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[Tim Wescott]

In this back lat-spread Freddy`s back is impressive, but take a good look at his arms,they are simply huge, and thick as all hell!server4.uploadit.org/files/261103-ortiz back.jpg[/img]