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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 5:48:56 GMT -5
Superheavyweihgt and Overall Winner:
Michael Lockett  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 5:53:58 GMT -5
Heavyweight:
Chad La Count  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:00:41 GMT -5
Light-Heavyweight:
Brandon Rey  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:05:33 GMT -5
Middleweight:
Roger Ferrer  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:11:09 GMT -5
Welterweight:
Victor Prisk  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:17:40 GMT -5
Lightweight:
Jeff Olcsvary  
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:25:35 GMT -5
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Post by Tim Wescott on Jun 17, 2007 6:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by Sal Paradise on Jun 17, 2007 7:12:41 GMT -5
I can't say in words how ridiculous this is.
If someone can have that big of an imbalance on their legs and still win it's total B.S.!
I just don't get it. Do they place him first simply because of the hype surrounding him or what?
I would have easily picked someone over him any day of the week.
Simply silly.
Sal
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Post by 1705total on Jun 17, 2007 15:03:01 GMT -5
He has a strange build for sure, his lats are high, and his legs, although thick don't have any sweep. His calves are huge, which only throws off his look. He claims to be natural, but he looks to have improved way to much from last years team universe to be natural
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Post by OptimumJoe on Jun 18, 2007 7:45:02 GMT -5
He has a strange build for sure, his lats are high, and his legs, although thick don't have any sweep. His calves are huge, which only throws off his look. He claims to be natural, but he looks to have improved way to much from last years team universe to be natural I'm not a fan of Lockett's physique. There's absolutely no flow to it. It's possible I guess, but gaining 25lbs this year "naturally" is quite an amazing accomplishment. The light heavy Rey has a great future ahead of him. He needs to be more conditioned, but this was his second show. Conditioning is something we can control, his shape is amazing and I can't wait to see what he does at Nationals if he still plans to do it. |
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Post by chanman83 on Jun 18, 2007 8:09:14 GMT -5
I know for someone like Jay Cutler who has nerve damage in his left leg (i think) how do you have an imbalance from one leg to another?
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Post by GerryT on Jun 18, 2007 8:14:47 GMT -5
Winning Team U overall last year made Lockett eligible for IFBB pro status. So he must have declined that to do this show. Team U is tested and this one is not. His rise from a heavy to a super is amazing to say the least.
From the photos, I thought LaCount or Ray would have been the better choice for the overall. Oh well, on to the next one!
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Post by Rich on Jun 18, 2007 8:22:22 GMT -5
I see what you guys are talking about with his lats and legs (no comment on the natch-or-not question), but I still think he looks outstanding. And his legs look great in the side chest pose, which leads me to believe he just has a genetic issue there with sweep. His muscle bellies are long and full, he's well conditioned, and he has an 8-pack!
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Post by EBA84 on Jun 18, 2007 8:58:17 GMT -5
The guy is a freak. He has a look to him that I have never seen before. I did the 2003 Bodyrock as a super heavyweight and he won the heavyweight class. Probably weighed around 205 then. I have never seen anyone that tight before. He looked like those pictures of the steer with the myostatin defect.
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Post by Sal Paradise on Jun 18, 2007 12:08:20 GMT -5
Winning Team U overall last year made Lockett eligible for IFBB pro status. So he must have declined that to do this show. Team U is tested and this one is not. His rise from a heavy to a super is amazing to say the least. From the photos, I thought LaCount or Ray would have been the better choice for the overall. Oh well, on to the next one! I'm glad you brought up the point of the Team Universe. Honestly - how many people of any self respect would win a pro card or elegibilty for one and then take a step backwards to do the Jr. Nationals?? Where the heck is the logic in that? I think I'll go get a masters degree and then go back to high school...... Either way, I'm not a fan of his decision making and I'm not a fan of his physique. Couldn't care less about being natural or not. doesn't make a chickens arse worth of difference to any one but him anyway. But his legs are not balanced and his back although heavily muscled is soft compared to his legs and butt. I also think he needs to add about 20-30 more pounds everywhere else to even out the size of his glutes! That being said the kid is a freak but I don't think someone should win a show based on that. Not when you have two other guys in the line up who looked much better even if they carried slightly less muscle. This show should have gone to the heavyweight winner in my humble opinion. Brandon who I know from another board is being flown out to CA to do some photo shoots with MD and he is very happy with the exposure and his placing in the show. Top notch guy there who remians humble and is always willing to give positive words of encouragement to others. Sal |
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Post by chanman83 on Jun 18, 2007 12:51:20 GMT -5
I think Brandon def gets my nod for overall. I liked how he looked.
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Post by GerryT on Jun 18, 2007 12:53:06 GMT -5
Agree with you. Again, just going by photos I would have gone with Chad for overall, but would not have been unhappy with Brandon.
Lockett is freaky but has his flaws. He is not balanced and could be at some point. But this show did seem to be a gift for him. Perhaps reputation as a pro eligible athlete played into the decision.
And I frankly also do not understand why one would bypass a pro card opportunity. Like Lockett, Marvin Ward and Jose Raymond had also done that, and both said that they did not have the size to be competitive in IFBB and both loved competing. But where is the challenge in competing against physiques to whom you are superior and preventing others from becoming pro eligible (although in this case, Jr Nats is not a BB pro qualifier)?
Sorry, getting off the soapbox.
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Post by Sal Paradise on Jun 18, 2007 13:16:04 GMT -5
You can stay on the soapbox as far as I'm concerned!!! You hit the nail on the head - it does prevent others from becoming eligible and what does it show for the person doing it? Kind of like a person who uses anabolics and entering a natural show. What does that prove? And what if you lose?  ? He had absolutely nothing to gain and possibly everything to lose by competing in this show. What if someone had been awarded the overall besides him? Now you essentially have a supposed "pro caliber" athlete losing to a guy in the Jr. Nats! I have heard that he acknowledges that fact that he needs to improve but entering this show is not the way to do it. Improve in the gym and with the diet - you can do both of those with a pro card and simply not competing. Now if I were to take another look at the whole scenario (simply because I like to play devils advocate - even with myself) it could have possibly been a good move career wise due to the added exposure. Basically he came onto the scene and competes in the Team U and won a pro card. Big whoop! Nobody knows who he is except a select few, he made a write up in MD but even with that not many people were expounding a lot of effort talking about him. Now he does this show and a lot of people may or may not agree with the outcome or whether he should have done the show or not but be assured there are a lot of people talking about it. Us being in that group! So for the simple fact of money and career progress it may have been the right decision. In the long run though, I think this will hurt his character more than help. Of course when did a persons character ever make a difference if he can cash in on it all. Sal |
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Post by GerryT on Jun 18, 2007 13:37:04 GMT -5
Seems we are on the exact same wavelength here. He is getting what he wanted, I guess. Exposure and notoriety on and off line.
Always like thought provoking posts like yours, J. Thanks a lot.
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